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Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (Resumed)
Higher Education Authority - Annual Financial Statements 2011: Discussion
(4 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: On 20 March.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (Resumed)
Higher Education Authority - Annual Financial Statements 2011: Discussion
(4 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: At a cost of?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (Resumed)
Higher Education Authority - Annual Financial Statements 2011: Discussion
(4 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: Paid for by-----

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (Resumed)
Higher Education Authority - Annual Financial Statements 2011: Discussion
(4 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: And arranged by it.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (Resumed)
Higher Education Authority - Annual Financial Statements 2011: Discussion
(4 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: The invoice is there. The Deputy suggested that we should bring back Waterford Institute of Technology for a further meeting. I suggest the HEA and the Department should be present at that meeting also.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (Resumed)
Higher Education Authority - Annual Financial Statements 2011: Discussion
(4 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: It is for one and the same flight.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (Resumed)
Higher Education Authority - Annual Financial Statements 2011: Discussion
(4 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: That is for 20 March.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (Resumed)
Higher Education Authority - Annual Financial Statements 2011: Discussion
(4 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: The other one is for €4,200 - that is for two flights.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (Resumed)
Higher Education Authority - Annual Financial Statements 2011: Discussion
(4 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: Does the HEA or the Department know?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (Resumed)
Higher Education Authority - Annual Financial Statements 2011: Discussion
(4 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: They are all signed off.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (Resumed)
Higher Education Authority - Annual Financial Statements 2011: Discussion
(4 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: It is the same signature on each one.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (Resumed)
Higher Education Authority - Annual Financial Statements 2011: Discussion
(4 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: Whose is the second signature?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (Resumed)
Higher Education Authority - Annual Financial Statements 2011: Discussion
(4 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: On the Bell Airways flight, there is just a reference and on the other there seem to be signatures.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (Resumed)
Higher Education Authority - Annual Financial Statements 2011: Discussion
(4 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: No, we did not. For clarification, I wish to state that when the statement was read out it was the first I had heard of it. As Chairman, I am annoyed that we are being obliged to extract information in this way. Prior to this meeting, I did not know anything about the other two flights or the invoice.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (Resumed)
Higher Education Authority - Annual Financial Statements 2011: Discussion
(4 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: Does Mr. Ó Foghlú wish to comment on this matter?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (Resumed)
Higher Education Authority - Annual Financial Statements 2011: Discussion
(4 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: Has anyone seen the statement from the previous chairman?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (Resumed)
Higher Education Authority - Annual Financial Statements 2011: Discussion
(4 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: None of us has seen it.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (Resumed)
Higher Education Authority - Annual Financial Statements 2011: Discussion
(4 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: For clarification, that statement was not issued to either the clerk or the committee. We have not seen it.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (Resumed)
Higher Education Authority - Annual Financial Statements 2011: Discussion
(4 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: And the press statement.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (Resumed)
Higher Education Authority - Annual Financial Statements 2011: Discussion
(4 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: That makes matters even worse. Deputies O'Donnell and Donohoe have requested copies of the various statements and invoices, is that correct?

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