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Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Charlie McConalogue: Yes. That was for smaller measures. That is a 42% cut but it is based on a smaller overall figure of just over €6.5 million. The carbon tax remains constant but the change is a result of the just transition funding, which was front-loaded last year.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Charlie McConalogue: It has been going for two or three years now.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Charlie McConalogue: The carbon tax is programmed in now to 2030.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Charlie McConalogue: In this CAP, we have put 50% extra funding into ACRES. Payments across the general scheme are expected to average about €5,500. We expect payments across the co-operation scheme to be more in the region of €7,000, on average. With the 50,000 to be in that over the course of the scheme, that is accounting for a 50% increase-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Charlie McConalogue: We would need to get more of the carbon tax to do that. In regard to ACRES, compared with GLAS we have 50% extra funding for that now, so that is being spread across. On the co-operation project, that is significantly higher than what was there for people in GLAS. The general scheme is also a good deal higher than what would have been there for people in GLAS previously. There are still...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Charlie McConalogue: There is a mechanism in place so that many farmers are sheltered from the carbon tax. Contractors are not, and we know the issue there. There is a challenge there, but for farmers there is the double accounting mechanism which allows carbon tax to be counted and taxed in a way that can remove that carbon tax from farmers. However, the wider carbon tax is coming into the farming sector but...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Charlie McConalogue: On the Strategic Banking Corporation of Ireland, we are scheduled to pay approximately €5 million to SBCI in 2024. That is for the growth and sustainability loan scheme. It is covered by €10.5 million of savings from the agriculture cashflow support loan scheme. That accounts for that. We have a couple of really good schemes, such as the future growth loan support scheme,...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Charlie McConalogue: Does the Deputy mean the overall profile of it?

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Charlie McConalogue: No. I had a meeting with the team last week and I expect the budget to be fully accounted for. We were, thankfully, able to accept everybody in but we are at the budget in terms of-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Charlie McConalogue: We have about 19,000 at the moment, roughly.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Charlie McConalogue: There are a few-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Charlie McConalogue: Yes, with the 50% extra increase we received for CAP agreed at Government level, we profile the different schemes. We have a budget the SCEP scheme. I met with the team last week to look at what the likely projections are around this. At the moment it appears to be heading to be on the button in terms of CAP. However, if I can free up any more money and if there are any new entrants, I...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Charlie McConalogue: We had €249 million at the end of last year. We are projecting that at the start of this year but everybody who applies will get it in the same way as before. We may need to adjust it. It is a set payment every year for the full five years. We expect to manage the budget around that but there is no change there.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Charlie McConalogue: Is the Deputy referring to subhead B12?

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Charlie McConalogue: That is the sheep improvement scheme, which is the five-year CAP scheme. It is the €12 per ewe scheme.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Charlie McConalogue: All applicants will be fully covered in that at €12 per ewe.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Charlie McConalogue: Last year was the first year of it, so that would have been an estimate last year. We would know what the outturn was, so there would probably be more certainty around exactly what the payment level was going to be for that this year. However, everybody who applied would have been accepted again and it will be fully covered again this year.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Charlie McConalogue: That relates to payments that have been coming out, the transitionary payments for the old GLAS that would have happened last year. There is a diminishing amount there.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Charlie McConalogue: Yes, 93% of the allocation for 2023 was the payment of the 2022 scheme year balance.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Charlie McConalogue: We did not spend it all last year so have a significant capital carry-over from last year into this year. If we get to the stage where we have all of that spent at the end of the year, it will be a sign of a very successful year for forestry.

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