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Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 25: Environment, Community and Local Government - Review of Allowances
(31 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: Arising from the comments of Deputy Sean Fleming, the departmental officials and congress, I was taken by the fact that Mr. Cody and other representatives told us there was no consultation with unions and that the implementation body did not consult unions in local government and across the sector. We seem to be heading down a road where management is examining the allowances and has...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 25: Environment, Community and Local Government - Review of Allowances
(31 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: Thank you, Ms Tallon. May we publish your statement?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 25: Environment, Community and Local Government - Review of Allowances
(31 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: I again remind members, witnesses and those in the visitors gallery to turn off their mobile phones as they interfere with the proper transmission of the proceedings. I advise witnesses that they are protected by absolute privilege in respect of the evidence they are to give to the committee. If they are directed by it to cease giving evidence on a particular matter and continue to do...

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: The witnesses are under time pressures.

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: We have come to the end of this session. I thank the witnesses for coming before the committee and being so frank and helpful.

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: I might make a point, as Deputy Harris may have missed it. In Ms King's contribution, she dealt with the description of the eating on site allowance. I want to relate this issue to a question that I asked on the business plans. Had they actually been business plans and included explanations, they would have dealt with all of the issues raised by Deputy Harris. A further unfair view of the...

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: I stated that clearly.

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: Is it the case that management is lacking?

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: Deputy Mary Lou McDonald’s time has concluded.

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: It was unusual, however, in the case of the State as employer.

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: My second question relates to the 800 business cases. I do not like to use that term because, from what I have seen, what was produced does not fit the description very well. Setting that aside, however, were the unions consulted in terms of the presentation of the business cases and the ticking of boxes in that context?

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: I have one final question regarding the 88 allowances that were identified for abolition. I understand the instruction to the various Departments and agencies was that other allowances should, where feasible, be proposed for inclusion on this list. Were the unions consulted in regard to the identification of the 88 allowances?

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: Sorry; Mr. Geraghty wanted to come in earlier.

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: Deputies McDonald, Nash and Donohoe have indicated they wish to contribute, but before they do, I have two questions arising from Mr. Cody's opening statement. First, I am struck by the point Mr. Cody made about not being consulted. Am I to understand that prior to the announcement of the review of the €1.5 billion paid in allowances, there was no consultation whatsoever, with the...

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: Thank you, Mr. Cody. May we publish your statement?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (31 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: This is a special meeting. We will deal solely with the agenda items - the presentation by the Irish Congress of Trade Unions on public sector allowances and the 2011 Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government - Review of Allowances. We have received related correspondence from the Irish Congress of...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (31 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: Is that agreed? Agreed.

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: I remind those present, including members, witnesses and the those in the Visitors Gallery, to turn off their mobile phones because they can interfere with the quality of the transmission. I advise witnesses that they are protected by absolute privilege in respect of the evidence they are to give to the committee. If they are directed by it to cease giving evidence on a particular matter...

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Justice and Equality - Review of Allowances (25 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: I thank the witnesses for their contribution and for the quality of the information provided before the meeting. It was most helpful as an explanation and for the committee to determine what these allowances are all about.

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Justice and Equality - Review of Allowances (25 Oct 2012)

John McGuinness: We are not dealing here with the Accounting Officer for that area.

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