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Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)

Catherine Connolly: I am aware of that. Why has it not been implemented?

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)

Catherine Connolly: On page nine of the report published in August 2017, it is stated that the GIAS is also conscious that the ICT strategic plan has not been implemented, which is seriously affecting the delivery of services and the effectiveness of available resources across the organisation. It was, therefore, recommended that the non-implementation of the plan is included on the corporate risk register.

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Mr. Kidd has clarified that there is a lack of staff, which is such an important issue that it is on the risk register.

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Can he quantify that?

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)

Catherine Connolly: When will adequate staff be in place?

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Will that complement of staff be in place by the end of the year?

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Mr. Kidd said that he hopes it will be in place.

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Is the dependency on external staff on the risk register as well as the lack of staff and resources?

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Is it included on the risk register?

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Let me get something clear, and the witnesses are not to blame for this. After 2008 there was a moratorium on staff and, in looking at excess expenditure in the public service, we cut down extensively on money being spent on direct staff. We gave more money to the private sector, which became the subject of examination at various committees. There were serious questions on procurement and...

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)

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Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)

Catherine Connolly: I have no problem with that.

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)

Catherine Connolly: I am reading about two items on a risk register. They are lack of staff and the reliance on a private market. There has been a board of governance since 2010, or was it 2016?

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)

Catherine Connolly: There is an audit committee. Who appoints the audit committee?

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Is Mr. Nugent on the audit committee?

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)

Catherine Connolly: I read the transcript of an earlier meeting when Ms Josephine Feehily talked about a conflict of interest, though it was not on a personal basis. She highlights it in clear language. When she was asked about Mr. Nugent's role in the legislation she said he was on the audit committee and the governance board, of which he is actually the chair.

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Mr. Nugent is chair of the governance board and on the audit committee.

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)

Catherine Connolly: When this was put to Ms Feehily, she stated there was a conflict of interest and she had discussed it but the legislation allowed the Policing Authority to appoint only Mr. Nugent or the deputy commissioner.

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)

Catherine Connolly: It is not a reflection on Mr. Nugent personally but this is the head of the Policing Authority highlighting that this as a conflict of interest and indicating that we need to look at the legislation.

Public Accounts Committee: Garda Internal Audit Report on ICT Directorate Payments Process (31 May 2018)

Catherine Connolly: What report has the Garda made to the Minister to say there is a conflict here and that it is unacceptable?

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