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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: Deputy Bríd Smith will be deputising for Deputy Gino Kenny and Senator Higgins for Senator Black. Apologies have been received from Deputy Hourigan. There seem to be issues with sound feedback. We hoped to have representatives of St. Vincent's Holdings in before the committee. Again, the invitation went out at late notice.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: We are still having feedback issues. I will suspend the meeting again.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: My apologies for the technical problems. As I was saying, we were hoping to get representatives of St. Vincent's Holdings before the committee. It was very short notice, but that is down to the timescale within which we were trying to work on this matter. Two of the directors are away and another had a prior engagement. I appreciate the witnesses coming in and giving their time today....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: I ask that Dr. Walshe be brought in on some of the other questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: We are out of time on this slot.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: Deputy Cullinane is next. I assure Dr. Walshe there will be plenty of time for her to come in.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: I am trying to be fair to everyone. We may have a second round of questioning and Deputy Cullinane has indicated he will not be here for that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: Go on.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: The Deputy asked a question; she should let the man answer. We are going to move on to Deputy Bríd Smith then.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: The Deputy asked the question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: Will the Deputy stop badgering the witness, please? She asked the question; she should let the man answer. We will move on to Deputy Bríd Smith. Is Mr. Menton finished?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: I ask the Deputy to allow Mr. Menton to finish his point, please.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: Time is up.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: Senator Hoey is next.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: I will have to bring Senator Higgins’s questions to an end.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: Senator Higgins should please conclude. We need to move on.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: She keeps fading in and out as well.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: We are going to have a second round, so the Senator might get in then.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: What is the Senator saying that Mr. Menton should reflect on?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: I will bring the other members in presently. Before I do so, I make the point that it has been a long negotiation between our guests and the HSE and the Government. What were the main stumbling blocks? Was it the issue of freehold and the land? In his opening statement, Mr. Menton made the point that ownership of Elm Park campus lands is essential to ensuring ongoing provision of best...

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