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Select Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Estimates for the Public Services 2013
Vote 32 - Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation (Revised)
(11 Jun 2013)

Richard Bruton: The Department is structured into ten agencies and roughly another ten offices.

Select Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Estimates for the Public Services 2013
Vote 32 - Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation (Revised)
(11 Jun 2013)

Richard Bruton: Yes. It does not distinguish the office administration from its front-line activities. I do not have information readily available to me from the workplace relations committee on how much is administration and how much is front-line inspection, case hearing, and so on. I am sure we can seek it. Is the Deputy looking for the percentage of administration costs within the overall budget of...

Select Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Estimates for the Public Services 2013
Vote 32 - Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation (Revised)
(11 Jun 2013)

Richard Bruton: Those figures are published. The pay rates of the chief executive officers of all our agencies are published, as is the administration budget of each agency. However, the Deputy is talking about the pay structure in each agency. We certainly know who is at the top.

Select Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Estimates for the Public Services 2013
Vote 32 - Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation (Revised)
(11 Jun 2013)

Richard Bruton: Does the Deputy mean the average pay rate per person?

Select Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Estimates for the Public Services 2013
Vote 32 - Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation (Revised)
(11 Jun 2013)

Richard Bruton: The IDA would have people in the field. Is the Deputy calling them administrators, people who are out-----

Select Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Estimates for the Public Services 2013
Vote 32 - Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation (Revised)
(11 Jun 2013)

Richard Bruton: We have administration costs set out in the document given to the Deputy, showing the pay element and the non-pay element. The estimate is €21 million for administration pay costs in 2012, with €5.6 million for non-pay. That would cover all our departments and offices, covering 788.65 people.

Select Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Estimates for the Public Services 2013
Vote 32 - Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation (Revised)
(11 Jun 2013)

Richard Bruton: That will give the average pay per person.

Select Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Estimates for the Public Services 2013
Vote 32 - Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation (Revised)
(11 Jun 2013)

Richard Bruton: All grades are there. There used to be the State directory which gave the pay rates of all grades. I am sure it is still around. The old State directory tells one the pay rate of every grade. Personnel would have it.

Select Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Estimates for the Public Services 2013
Vote 32 - Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation (Revised)
(11 Jun 2013)

Richard Bruton: We have a summary note here that might be useful. It does not give numbers, however.

Select Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Estimates for the Public Services 2013
Vote 32 - Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation (Revised)
(11 Jun 2013)

Richard Bruton: Good progress has been made on all of the mergers. The new legislation on the National Consumer Agency and competition Bill is on the A list. The legislation is not just concerned with the restructuring but also with the code of practice in the grocery sector and the new provisions on the transfer of media merger oversight to the Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources,...

Select Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Estimates for the Public Services 2013
Vote 32 - Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation (Revised)
(11 Jun 2013)

Richard Bruton: Absolutely.

Select Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Estimates for the Public Services 2013
Vote 32 - Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation (Revised)
(11 Jun 2013)

Richard Bruton: No. We proposed moving it to his remit. To reassure people, the existing legislation contains a strong public interest test. The review of mergers some years ago suggested a cleaning up of the criteria, which is being done under the new Bill. It will also address the transfer issue. There is a good code of public interest protection. We are pushing ahead in this regard. The merger...

Select Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Estimates for the Public Services 2013
Vote 32 - Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation (Revised)
(11 Jun 2013)

Richard Bruton: The CRO has enough money. Its budget has been set in anticipation of its work under the Companies Bill and we are satisfied that provision has been made for this work. The Deputy is right in that the Health and Safety Authority has been progressive in how it has done its work. If we rely on inspections, we will never get around to everyone. We must get people to embrace a culture of high...

Select Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Estimates for the Public Services 2013
Vote 32 - Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation (Revised)
(11 Jun 2013)

Richard Bruton: I will address the legal costs. The Secretary General is required to make a contingency provision, including for the protection of trademarks and emblems. We were involved in a court case in the labour area. Deputy Lawlor will know of the challenges to a number of registered employment agreements, REAs, and joint labour committees, JLCs. Court costs were incurred last year. Under...

Select Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Estimates for the Public Services 2013
Vote 32 - Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation (Revised)
(11 Jun 2013)

Richard Bruton: We are not committing to pay it.

Select Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Estimates for the Public Services 2013
Vote 32 - Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation (Revised)
(11 Jun 2013)

Richard Bruton: The effective rate of tax reported for Ireland by PricewaterhouseCoopers is approximately 11.9%, which reflects tax breaks under the code. Many people who speak about the tax paid seek to apply Irish tax to earnings a company made elsewhere. This is not a proper way to calculate it. A company with operations in Ireland pays tax on its operations in Ireland. This is how the effective tax...

Select Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Estimates for the Public Services 2013
Vote 32 - Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation (Revised)
(11 Jun 2013)

Richard Bruton: These are relatively new schemes and knowledge of them at front desks in banks and among small and medium enterprises is building. Recently, I met the banks to seek better arrangements whereby at the point of refusal, people would be alerted not only to their right to appeal but also access to the loan guarantee or other loan alternatives. I would be keen to see this because approximately...

Select Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Estimates for the Public Services 2013
Vote 32 - Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation (Revised)
(11 Jun 2013)

Richard Bruton: Yes.

Select Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Estimates for the Public Services 2013
Vote 32 - Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation (Revised)
(11 Jun 2013)

Richard Bruton: The Deputy will see that the flow of new investments from Asia on the foreign direct investment, FDI, front is probably less than the IDA would have hoped for but we believe it is a market with which we must persist. We will be seeking to maintain our presence in these markets even though, in the short term, one might say it is not turning around the same return, either in IDA investment or...

Select Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Estimates for the Public Services 2013
Vote 32 - Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation (Revised)
(11 Jun 2013)

Richard Bruton: I know that is what the Deputy is saying. A balance is being run in all these areas. Our best market for Enterprise Ireland companies is probably Germany and France but we would be short-sighted to focus on those because we have to build new markets. It is a question of striking a balance. On Deputy Tóibín's point about tax breaks, Ireland has an offering which is less and less...

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