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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Mar 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Therefore, we will probably receive a draft report early after Easter-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Mar 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: -----and take matters from there.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Mar 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I am merely stating the first cut-off point will be consideration of the report from the rapporteur.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Mar 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: One expects it to arrive mid-April.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2013: Committee Stage (6 Mar 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I wish to comment on the 30% figure in respect of the drawdown relating to AVCs over a three year period. In the context of people having adequate pension provision, I understand AVCs only apply to occupational pension schemes and that they do not apply to the self-employed or directors who are involved in company pension schemes. The State's only exposure is in terms of the qualifying...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: That is great. I thank Mr. Ó Foghlú.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: So if a student has not responded within six weeks of being written to or e-mailed, his or her file will be closed?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: What about the 3,181 applications in which supplementary documentation is sought? How quickly will they be dealt with?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: On day one, when SUSI was being set up, what type of due diligence was done on the structures that City of Dublin VEC was able to provide to implement this?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Does Mr. Ó Foghlú agree that the current position, in which approximately 10,000 applications are yet to be dealt with in some shape or form six months later, is most unsatisfactory?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I am approaching the overpayment of teachers from a slightly different perspective. I have been contacted by young teachers who have received correspondence in the past two weeks seeking the repayment of overpayments made in their wages. The letters they received stated that moneys would be deducted from their salaries within two weeks. The individuals in question have been in contact with...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I refer to a particular group of teachers.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: The individuals who have contacted me are young teachers.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: They have received letters from the Department in the past two weeks.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Will Mr. Ó Foghlú provide the dates for which the repayments are owed?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: That is not the case.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Under a previous circular, where a teacher was working in a school prior to qualification, this was taken into account in his or her pay scale. However, the main issue is that the teachers in question expressed concerns that they were not on the correct pay scale and contacted the Department repeatedly. They were informed, by letter, that they were on the correct pay scale but have received...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: It would strike me as normal not to proceed with the proposed deductions until some interaction has taken place with the young teachers in question, who are going from school to school and working part-time. It is a little perplexing that when they queried this matter over the past two years the Department informed them there was not a problem. They are now receiving letters informing them...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: To recap, of the 14,216 applications that are outstanding 6,849 applicants have not responded. Some 4,176 applicants have made a return with incomplete information and 3,181 have returned supplementary documentation to be considered.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: So that leaves 7,357 applications and 391 applications, as the numbers in process and 2,164 applications have been awarded a grant but have yet to be paid. Some 391 grants are in the process of being awarded, 4,176 have returned incomplete information and 3,181 have not responded to requests for supplementary information. In total that comes to 9,912, which is just short of 10,000 which is...

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