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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Security, Recruitment and Training at Dublin Airport: Discussion (14 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: The way in which it was phrased looked like more than half the staff are gone. I am not saying they are not well trained. If that is the case, then an awful lot of people who were there before have been lost. Maybe that is not the case.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Security, Recruitment and Training at Dublin Airport: Discussion (14 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Before I bring in Deputy Crowe, Mr. Jacobs gave us a very nice passenger satisfaction figure for Cork Airport. We do not have the passenger satisfaction figure for Dublin Airport. I would be interested in that if it is available. It may not be as high as Cork Airport. I would be interested in that, if that is possible.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Security, Recruitment and Training at Dublin Airport: Discussion (14 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: In regard to the long-term expansion plans, Mr. Jacobs said 32 million passengers heading towards 38 million. Is that the aim? His point was there are 32 million passengers and even if we just let the economy drift along as it is, we will need to have capacity for 38 million. He also said he has six and a half years left. Where would he like to see Dublin Airport in seven years when he is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Security, Recruitment and Training at Dublin Airport: Discussion (14 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Yes, to a figure of approximately 40 million rather than a figure of 60 million.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Security, Recruitment and Training at Dublin Airport: Discussion (14 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: With regard to car parking, is it bought or in the process of being bought?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Security, Recruitment and Training at Dublin Airport: Discussion (14 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Is that a NAMA property?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Security, Recruitment and Training at Dublin Airport: Discussion (14 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Last week I saw online that some of the buses that go to the airport, the route 16 I believe, was not letting people on with luggage. It goes to the airport but is not an airport bus. Someone was refused to take on luggage. Where are we in terms of Dublin Bus making sure that the buses it routes through the airport can take luggage? Clearly if a person is getting the 16 bus to the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Security, Recruitment and Training at Dublin Airport: Discussion (14 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: On Dublin Bus routes, and we can have Dublin Bus in on some other day, if the bus is going through the airport facility the vast majority of passengers are not just employees and many will want to bring bags, some of them sizeable. It would make sense that the bus would have facilities and be designed to cater for passenger luggage.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Security, Recruitment and Training at Dublin Airport: Discussion (14 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I would have thought that would be the case for everybody but somebody on Twitter said they were refused. It seems that we are trying to get people to use public transport but they are being refused.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Security, Recruitment and Training at Dublin Airport: Discussion (14 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I am not having a go at Dublin Bus or at DAA. It makes sense that more people use buses. I always try to use the Aircoach if I can because it is efficient and gets through the traffic in the bus lanes far quicker than anyone else can. I appreciate many people do not have Aircoach access near where they are. I call Deputy Crowe.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Security, Recruitment and Training at Dublin Airport: Discussion (14 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: At the start of the meeting, and I appreciate the Deputy was not present, it was agreed that we are not in a position to discuss today matters relating to certain issues relating to security and the operation of the north runway. I advise him to take his questioning in a slightly different direction. I will see what Mr. Jacobs says but it has been agreed that particular matters related to...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Security, Recruitment and Training at Dublin Airport: Discussion (14 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I will ask the Deputy just to be careful in how he frames his question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Security, Recruitment and Training at Dublin Airport: Discussion (14 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Will there be a reduction in lanes as they are bigger machines? Does the airport have enough space?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Security, Recruitment and Training at Dublin Airport: Discussion (14 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: They have different levels of training. I presume the fellow looking at the screen has to be the most qualified.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Security, Recruitment and Training at Dublin Airport: Discussion (14 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: The fellow asking people if they have taken their belts off and emptied their pockets, less so.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Security, Recruitment and Training at Dublin Airport: Discussion (14 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: My understanding is that an IAA investigation is in process and until it is concluded, we cannot discuss the matter. The committee will write to the IAA to ask the status of the report, when it might be concluded and what sight or otherwise we may get of it. The CEO has alluded to the fact that he thinks he will be in a position to discuss the north runway in September or thereabouts in a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Security, Recruitment and Training at Dublin Airport: Discussion (14 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I will add to that. There was a time when Concorde used to come in for the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe. Pier A used to be opened on a Saturday morning in October and I remember being a child going out to see it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Security, Recruitment and Training at Dublin Airport: Discussion (14 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Perhaps the mezzanine area.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Security, Recruitment and Training at Dublin Airport: Discussion (14 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I thank Deputy Crowe for his comment. Before I bring in Deputy O'Reilly, I will touch on that. Is the big structure that is above T1 - it is a multistorey car park that was never used - just empty or is it full of offices? Is there an opportunity to do plane spotting there or is it just an empty car park?

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