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Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: I would not say it is a simple mind.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: I will give Ms Feehily the benefit of my simple mind on it. Revenue collected €36 billion last year and is expected to collect €38 billion this year. The Government parties by way of policy decided that they wanted more taxes and then asked Revenue to collect them. They are, therefore, asking it to collect €250 million this year in the local property tax and double...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: I am sure they would not want to go near a property tax now. If Revenue had collected the outstanding taxes, they might not have gone near the tax. I do not want Ms Feehily to comment on that, but I would like her to address the question of efficiently collecting and establishing the taxes due, including the appeals, in order that there is a little write-off at the other end. That requires...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: Is there much public interest in advertisements for the position of commissioner?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: There was none.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: Ms Feehily wrote to Departments and State agencies in regard to their tax obligations. Without naming Departments or agencies, what did she find?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: Having been so helpful, did Revenue collect any money?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: Did they find that they were in breach of the tax code?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: Approximately €2 billion was outstanding at the end of March 2012. What is now outstanding as we approach March 2013? Is the figure similar?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: To go backwards, what were the figures for 2011 and 2010? The 2008 report from the Comptroller and Auditor General suggests that debt in the five year bracket is approximately the same amount. What is the figure and why is it there? As the debt and the analysis age, the money must become harder to collect. For example, what is the value of the debt in the five year bracket in the past few...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: I call the Comptroller and Auditor General to introduce the accounts.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: I thank Mr. McCarthy. I call Ms Feehily for her opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: Should we write to each Accounting Officer?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: We will ask the Comptroller and Auditor General to comment on it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: Deputy Harris wants to establish whether, apart from the figures he has, other Accounting Officers have not been asked to contribute to the analysis.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: Deputy Harris is not surprised by that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: We should find out about the other agencies, outside of the ones who have reported, and write to them. We can follow the recommendation of the Comptroller and Auditor General and write to the Department of Finance. We might get a broader picture. I ask Deputy Harris to liaise with the clerk to the committee to find out the information we have so that we can follow up and fill in the gaps...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: I remind members, witnesses and those in the public gallery to turn off their mobile telephones because interference from the telephones affects the sound quality of the transmission of the meeting. By virtue of section 17(2)(l) of the Defamation Act 2009, witnesses are protected by absolute privilege in respect of the evidence you are to give this committee. If you are directed by the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: The first item is the minutes of meetings of 6 and 7 February 2013. Are the minutes agreed? Agreed. The next item is correspondence from Accounting Officers and Ministers. No. 3A.1 is correspondence, dated 4 February 2013, from Mr. Shaun Quinn, chief executive, Fáilte Ireland, re Suffolk Street information office, to be noted and published. No. 3A.2 is correspondence, dated 7...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: Is the Deputy saying that the information is not complete?

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