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Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Issues relating to International Surrogacy Arrangements and Achieving Parental Recognition: Discussion (Resumed) (5 May 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: I move now to Senator McGreehan. I ask her to confirm that she is on the Leinster House campus. Your microphone is muted, Senator.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Issues relating to International Surrogacy Arrangements and Achieving Parental Recognition: Discussion (Resumed) (5 May 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: When people who are interested in surrogacy come to Ms Duffy, does she recommend specific jurisdictions, and if so, on what basis does she do that? Does she consider issues such as cost, the legalese that arises or ethical considerations regarding the circumstances in different jurisdictions? What information does she provide and on what basis does she guide intending parents in a given...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Issues relating to International Surrogacy Arrangements and Achieving Parental Recognition: Discussion (Resumed) (5 May 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: It seems very piecemeal for intending parents and very difficult for people to find out all the information. There are many different elements to it, from the Department to lawyers here, lawyers overseas and medical issues.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Issues relating to International Surrogacy Arrangements and Achieving Parental Recognition: Discussion (Resumed) (5 May 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: Does Ms Bonnie wish to come in on that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Issues relating to International Surrogacy Arrangements and Achieving Parental Recognition: Discussion (Resumed) (5 May 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: I will briefly go to Senator Keogan.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Issues relating to International Surrogacy Arrangements and Achieving Parental Recognition: Discussion (Resumed) (5 May 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: Sorry, we are going to have to move on.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Issues relating to International Surrogacy Arrangements and Achieving Parental Recognition: Discussion (Resumed) (5 May 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: I thank the witnesses for those inputs. It shows the lack of regulation in this area is very problematic for all parties. Our remit is to make recommendations on where we could regulate to avoid circumstances where anyone, whether it is a child, a surrogate or an intending parent, is disadvantaged in any way with respect to their rights. I thank everyone for their contributions and for...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Issues relating to International Surrogacy Arrangements and Achieving Parental Recognition: Discussion (Resumed) (5 May 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: I welcome everybody. In this session, our second today, we will be considering the rights and regularising the position of existing children born through international surrogacy, the role of legal advice and arrangements for the verification of documents issued in other countries. On behalf of the committee, I welcome: Ms Maeve Delargy and Ms Ranae von Meding from Equality for Children; Ms...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Issues relating to International Surrogacy Arrangements and Achieving Parental Recognition: Discussion (Resumed) (5 May 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: Please confirm that you are on campus.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Issues relating to International Surrogacy Arrangements and Achieving Parental Recognition: Discussion (Resumed) (5 May 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: We are coming to the end of the session but I am aware that there were some questions for Ms Bonnie and Dr. Sperrin.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Issues relating to International Surrogacy Arrangements and Achieving Parental Recognition: Discussion (Resumed) (5 May 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: I thank Ms Wheatley. I know how difficult it is to come in and go through these stories so I really appreciate everybody coming in to do it today.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Issues relating to International Surrogacy Arrangements and Achieving Parental Recognition: Discussion (Resumed) (5 May 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: I thank Ms Wheatley.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Issues relating to International Surrogacy Arrangements and Achieving Parental Recognition: Discussion (Resumed) (5 May 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: Has Deputy Murnane O'Connor another question?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Issues relating to International Surrogacy Arrangements and Achieving Parental Recognition: Discussion (Resumed) (5 May 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: Would Ms Wheatley like to come back in? There is time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Issues relating to International Surrogacy Arrangements and Achieving Parental Recognition: Discussion (Resumed) (5 May 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: Okay. We will-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Issues relating to International Surrogacy Arrangements and Achieving Parental Recognition: Discussion (Resumed) (5 May 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: I cannot see if Senator McGreehan is on campus. We can come back to her. I refer to the point Senator Ruane made. She has me thinking now about it. It is true. As part of this process you are expected to come here, tell us your stories and be the perfect women, mothers and parents. It must be a very difficult place to be, to fight for what should be rights for your children and truly...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Issues relating to International Surrogacy Arrangements and Achieving Parental Recognition: Discussion (Resumed) (5 May 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: We will go to Senator McGreehan and then to Senator Seery Kearney. Then we will go back to our guests for their final comment.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Issues relating to International Surrogacy Arrangements and Achieving Parental Recognition: Discussion (Resumed) (5 May 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: Senator Seery Kearney wanted to come in and Deputy Funchion had a query about the Canadian model.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Issues relating to International Surrogacy Arrangements and Achieving Parental Recognition: Discussion (Resumed) (5 May 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: We have 20 minutes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Issues relating to International Surrogacy Arrangements and Achieving Parental Recognition: Discussion (Resumed) (5 May 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: Okay, we have gone over. I apologise.

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