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Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: This is to conclude, Deputy.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Deputy Brady , I am going to move on

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: I thank Deputy Brady. I call Senator Sherlock. The floor is hers.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: One voice please. I will give Mr. Tubridy a chance to speak but ask him to give the Senator a chance to finish her line of questioning.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Please conclude, Senator.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: We will conclude the Senator's slot there. I will explain to our witnesses where we are. I know they are exhausted. We are near the end of the day. We are at the three-hour point now because we were a little late starting and a little late back from the break. They will be happy to know that I am the last person who has any latitude to ask questions. I will keep them to four minutes...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: I thank them. We will not detain them if they are not willing.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: They are getting latitude so Mr. Tubridy should not worry. My slot is next. I will not take ten minutes. I will cut to the chase. Everything Deputy Cannon said is where I am coming from. I concur with all the points he made. He represents and reflects everything that is going on in my head. With my four minutes, I will ask a couple of questions. How many personalities who currently...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Mr. Kelly has been at pains today to remind my colleagues and the public that he has worked with RTÉ for the past 23 years. Am I right?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: During those 23 years representing various personalities, has Mr. Kelly ever been instructed, as he said earlier, by RTÉ to raise invoices that did not accurately reflect the service he or the personalities he represents were providing? Is this the first and only time he recalls?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Why did Mr. Kelly go along with it? Why did he not disagree?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Mr. Tubridy stated that he has worked with or been around the corridors of RTÉ since he was 12.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Was he ever employed directly by RTÉ?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: At what point in his career was Mr. Tubridy advised by someone in RTÉ to not be a direct employee and to go solo, as he said, and get himself an external contract.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Who in RTÉ gave him that advice?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: That concludes my questions.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: That concludes my questions because, as I said, I concur with everything Deputy Cannon said. I will move on. I ask the non-members of the committee to be respectful of the fact that the witnesses are staying and keep to their three minutes.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: I ask the Deputy to conclude.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Mr. Tubridy, can I just ask you to pause for a second? I have a clerk beside me who is meticulous about time and she is conscious that we have run well over time. Before Mr. Tubridy responds, would he mind if I ask Senator Murphy whether he has a quick question or comment? If so, he could come in with that and then Mr. Tubridy can respond.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: You are fine. I call Senator Murphy.

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