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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Third Report of the Citizens' Assembly: Discussion (4 Oct 2018)

Eamon Ryan: If Mr. Doyle does not mind, what I do not need is a reiteration of all the different measures. We have just heard three hours of that. I want to focus specifically on the issue as to how we draft this new national energy and climate action plan. The reason we called in the Secretaries General is that we will be asking the same questions to the Secretary General of the Department of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Third Report of the Citizens' Assembly: Discussion (4 Oct 2018)

Eamon Ryan: When we respond to the European Union that we are technology-takers, I do not think that it will take that as an answer. What are the key public transport projects that are in construction today?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Third Report of the Citizens' Assembly: Discussion (4 Oct 2018)

Eamon Ryan: The question I asked was what about the key public transport projects being built now today.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Third Report of the Citizens' Assembly: Discussion (4 Oct 2018)

Eamon Ryan: Is "none" the answer?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Third Report of the Citizens' Assembly: Discussion (4 Oct 2018)

Eamon Ryan: If Mr. Doyle could answer the question-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Third Report of the Citizens' Assembly: Discussion (4 Oct 2018)

Eamon Ryan: The answer is that there is no major public transport project on the ground now. Unless Ms Graham knows about one.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Third Report of the Citizens' Assembly: Discussion (4 Oct 2018)

Eamon Ryan: The reason that I asked the question, and Ms Graham knows this because I have been deeply frustrated here and I am as fascinated by the support for public transport in Dublin, is that every single approach road to Dublin is being widened. There are projects such as N7 upgrade, which is going ahead now, there are projects to upgrade the N11, N2, N3 and the N4. There are ten roads, that is,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Third Report of the Citizens' Assembly: Discussion (4 Oct 2018)

Eamon Ryan: I cheer on every one of those projects. What is the projection for the number of cars that will be on the road in 2030?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Third Report of the Citizens' Assembly: Discussion (4 Oct 2018)

Eamon Ryan: It is growing by 55,000 cars a year. There is no reason to expect that would charge, is there? I do not think the economic growth will fall.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Third Report of the Citizens' Assembly: Discussion (4 Oct 2018)

Eamon Ryan: It is likely that during this 12 to 13-year period we are looking, we are looking at an additional 500,000 cars.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Third Report of the Citizens' Assembly: Discussion (4 Oct 2018)

Eamon Ryan: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Third Report of the Citizens' Assembly: Discussion (4 Oct 2018)

Eamon Ryan: Expenditure of €11.1 billion is planned for roads and €8 billion for public transport. The truth is that to date, it is ten roads and no public transport. There are 55 other roads, between national roads and motorways, planned. There are only three major public transport projects that I see. Other than the Royal Canal, and I love the development that is happening there,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Third Report of the Citizens' Assembly: Discussion (4 Oct 2018)

Eamon Ryan: What I hope this committee will do is build the political support for that because I do not believe it exists at present. The scale of the change we need is so great that the political support needed is also great and we are nowhere near it. The number of cyclists went up last year but it increased by 2.9%. That figure should be rising by 10% or 20%, there is a pent-up demand because the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Third Report of the Citizens' Assembly: Discussion (4 Oct 2018)

Eamon Ryan: Why did we not find that out before we signed off on the plan?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Third Report of the Citizens' Assembly: Discussion (4 Oct 2018)

Eamon Ryan: I think the national planning framework got it absolutely right. We have to switch to low carbon. We have to switch back to the core. The national development plan abandoned that. I cite Edgar Morgenroth, who I think was involved in the early stages of the planning framework and just about anyone with any climate, transport or energy expertise to whom I talk will say that we just went...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Third Report of the Citizens' Assembly: Discussion (4 Oct 2018)

Eamon Ryan: It is a bit unfair to UCC to expect it to run the transport system.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Third Report of the Citizens' Assembly: Discussion (4 Oct 2018)

Eamon Ryan: At some point before the European Commission comes in, we will have to have an answer to the questions on who is doing what and how much it will reduce our emissions. I am not obsessed with modelling because it is difficult to model the future completely. I am sorry to become annoyed about a personal matter but I cycle down Leeson Street every day and I am nearly killed on a regular basis....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Third Report of the Citizens' Assembly: Discussion (4 Oct 2018)

Eamon Ryan: The truth is that nothing is happening.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Third Report of the Citizens' Assembly: Discussion (4 Oct 2018)

Eamon Ryan: In that context, which Secretary General is appearing before the committee next?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Third Report of the Citizens' Assembly: Discussion (4 Oct 2018)

Eamon Ryan: Will the clerk ask the representatives in advance what contribution that Department intends to make in the context of that cut of 50 million tonnes?

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