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Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of the Chief State Solicitor
Vote 19 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 15: Lease of Accommodation for a Probation Service Project
(21 Mar 2013)

John McGuinness: The Deputy is the lead speaker on the chapter.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of the Chief State Solicitor
Vote 19 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 15: Lease of Accommodation for a Probation Service Project
(21 Mar 2013)

John McGuinness: That depends on how long the discussion on chapter 15 takes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of the Chief State Solicitor
Vote 19 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 15: Lease of Accommodation for a Probation Service Project
(21 Mar 2013)

John McGuinness: That is up to the Deputy.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of the Chief State Solicitor
Vote 19 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 15: Lease of Accommodation for a Probation Service Project
(21 Mar 2013)

John McGuinness: Deputy Paschal Donohoe will deal with the general Vote.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of the Chief State Solicitor
Vote 19 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 15: Lease of Accommodation for a Probation Service Project
(21 Mar 2013)

John McGuinness: I thank Ms Creedon. Could we publish the statement?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of the Chief State Solicitor
Vote 19 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 15: Lease of Accommodation for a Probation Service Project
(21 Mar 2013)

John McGuinness: Before I call on Deputy Donohoe I wish to make a comment. On Ms Creedon's comment on chapter 15, the committee has taken legal advice from the parliamentary legal adviser and our advice is that the matter is properly before the committee and therefore in accordance with Standing Order 163 of Dáil Éireann and the mandate given to the committee that it is up to us to examine the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of the Chief State Solicitor
Vote 19 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 15: Lease of Accommodation for a Probation Service Project
(21 Mar 2013)

John McGuinness: I accept what Ms Creedon has stated and what was outlined by Mr. Purcell. There is no difficulty in dealing with the general Vote and the other matters separate from chapter 15. I am sure members will agree with that. In the context of chapter 15, the report itself is a public document. The facts are contained in a public document and I am sure that the content of a public document can be...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of the Chief State Solicitor
Vote 19 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 15: Lease of Accommodation for a Probation Service Project
(21 Mar 2013)

John McGuinness: I thank Mr. McCarthy and call on Mr. Purcell to make his opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of the Chief State Solicitor
Vote 19 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 15: Lease of Accommodation for a Probation Service Project
(21 Mar 2013)

John McGuinness: I thank Mr. Purcell. May we publish his statement?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of the Chief State Solicitor
Vote 19 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 15: Lease of Accommodation for a Probation Service Project
(21 Mar 2013)

John McGuinness: I thank Mr. Purcell and call on Ms Creedon to make her opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Mar 2013)

John McGuinness: June is too late, so the meeting should be earlier, even if we have to slot in a special meeting.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Mar 2013)

John McGuinness: That is fine. I thank the Clerk. The second matter is the finalisation of the report on the HSE and SIPTU. That report has been completed. When is it likely to come before this committee?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Mar 2013)

John McGuinness: What is the subsequent process?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Mar 2013)

John McGuinness: Because it is a dated issue and has come before us previously, it is important that the remaining stages be dealt with quickly. We will ask the Minister that on receipt of the report he make it available to the committee so that we can arrange an early hearing. The DDDA just wants to get it in order to deal with it as quickly as possible within a reasonable timeframe. Is there any other...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Mar 2013)

John McGuinness: Should a reminder be sent to the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Mar 2013)

John McGuinness: If there is no other business, we will deal with today's business. I ask the witnesses to attend.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of the Chief State Solicitor
Vote 19 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 15: Lease of Accommodation for a Probation Service Project
(21 Mar 2013)

John McGuinness: Item No. 7 on the agenda is the 2011 annual report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and appropriation accounts, Vote 13, Office of the Chief State Solicitor, Vote 19, Justice and Equality, and Chapter 15, lease of accommodation for a Probation Service project. Before we begin I ask members, witnesses and those in the Public Gallery to turn off all mobile phones as they interfere with...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of the Chief State Solicitor
Vote 19 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 15: Lease of Accommodation for a Probation Service Project
(21 Mar 2013)

John McGuinness: I welcome Ms Eileen Creedon, Chief State Solicitor. I invite her to introduce her officials.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of the Chief State Solicitor
Vote 19 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 15: Lease of Accommodation for a Probation Service Project
(21 Mar 2013)

John McGuinness: I welcome the officials from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of the Chief State Solicitor
Vote 19 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 15: Lease of Accommodation for a Probation Service Project
(21 Mar 2013)

John McGuinness: I invite the Comptroller and Auditor General to present his statement.

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