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Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Fiscal Assessment Report: Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (16 Jan 2019)

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Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Fiscal Assessment Report: Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (16 Jan 2019)

Colm Brophy: For housekeeping purposes and to make things clear, within the five-minute period in the first round of questions, if a member has not used the full five minutes, he or she has every right to come back in and chase down an answer he or she might feel was not given. There will be no attempt on my part to shut that down. If a member has used his or her five minutes and the Minister has...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Fiscal Assessment Report: Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (16 Jan 2019)

Colm Brophy: We have exceeded the time allocated, unless the Deputy is very quick.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Fiscal Assessment Report: Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (16 Jan 2019)

Colm Brophy: Five seconds.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Fiscal Assessment Report: Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (16 Jan 2019)

Colm Brophy: The Deputy has used his five seconds.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Fiscal Assessment Report: Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (16 Jan 2019)

Colm Brophy: I thank the Minister. It is almost 5.15 p.m. and there is private session to follow. I note we gave an undertaking to the Minister that we would finish at 5.15 p.m. All the Deputies have had a chance to contribute. I thank all my colleagues for facilitating. Almost every member spoke on the committee today. I thank the Minister and his officials for coming in to us. I propose we take a...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Health Budget and Expenditure Management: Discussion (11 Dec 2018)

Colm Brophy: I remind members and witnesses to turn off their mobile phones. Overruns in health expenditure have become a key issue and exercised the committee during its pre-budget discussion earlier this year. In July 2018, the prospect of significant overruns in the health budget was flagged to the committee and became a key theme raised with the Minister for Finance at our summer meeting and in our...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Health Budget and Expenditure Management: Discussion (11 Dec 2018)

Colm Brophy: The first Deputy to indicate was Deputy Jonathan O'Brien.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Health Budget and Expenditure Management: Discussion (11 Dec 2018)

Colm Brophy: I thank all the members. However, due to other commitments some of the members could not remain. I have some questions and comments. I begin by thanking Mr. Desmond for coming before us and showing respect for the work of our committee unlike the officials from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform. In October 2018, the Government announced a new budget oversight group to be...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Health Budget and Expenditure Management: Discussion (11 Dec 2018)

Colm Brophy: When is that due?

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Health Budget and Expenditure Management: Discussion (11 Dec 2018)

Colm Brophy: Imminently being days or weeks?

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Health Budget and Expenditure Management: Discussion (11 Dec 2018)

Colm Brophy: Is there a financial challenge in it?

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Health Budget and Expenditure Management: Discussion (11 Dec 2018)

Colm Brophy: It is very significant and it has gone into the base, so therefore it would be very worrying to see at the outset of the year any potential that would link to the possibility of an overrun. Let me return to a point raised by a colleague earlier. Where does the overrun come from? Deputy Lahart was referring to the 5%. Having looked at the figures, the one most remarkable, consistent...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Health Budget and Expenditure Management: Discussion (11 Dec 2018)

Colm Brophy: It certainly is a key issue. I appreciate it may sometimes be unfair to take one line from an opening statement, but I have a real problem with it. Mr Desmond said: “Furthermore, the nature of the health services is such that the normal budget management levers available to other sectors, such as reduction of services, are simply not available to us and consequently, overruns can and...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Health Budget and Expenditure Management: Discussion (11 Dec 2018)

Colm Brophy: Is Mr. Desmond confident that that level of management of expertise should now be there, particularly dealing with the increased budget that is now allocated?

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Health Budget and Expenditure Management: Discussion (11 Dec 2018)

Colm Brophy: I am glad to hear that. I borrow an analogy that is used about speed limits in this country. They are supposed to be guidance as to where one should stop and not a target to aim for, because if one aims for the target, one will overshoot. Without that mindset change irrespective of how big the health budget becomes, the existing management structure will end up overrunning by 5% because it...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Business of Select Committee (5 Dec 2018)

Colm Brophy: Apologies have been received from Deputies Cowen and Heydon. Today the committee will meet members of the Irish Fiscal Advisory Council. We will engage with its chairman, Mr. Seamas Coffey, and other council members to discuss the fiscal assessment report that was published on 28 November. Before doing so, we will go into private session to deal with some housekeeping matters.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Fiscal Assessment Report November 2018: Irish Fiscal Advisory Council (5 Dec 2018)

Colm Brophy: Before we begin, I remind the members and witnesses to turn off their mobile phones because the interference by phones affects the sound quality and transmission of the meeting. I welcome Mr. Seamus Coffey to the committee. He is accompanied by his fellow council members, Mr. Sebastian Barnes, Ms Martina Lawless, Mr. Michael Tutty and Mr. Eddie Casey. We are meeting with the Irish Fiscal...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Fiscal Assessment Report November 2018: Irish Fiscal Advisory Council (5 Dec 2018)

Colm Brophy: I thank Mr. Coffey. A number of members have indicated a wish to speak. I remind members that I will, as normal, allow approximately five minutes each and there will be an additional round of questions later. I will allow everyone to make an initial comment. The first person to indicate a wish to comment was Deputy Michael McGrath.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Fiscal Assessment Report November 2018: Irish Fiscal Advisory Council (5 Dec 2018)

Colm Brophy: Deputy Bailey is next.

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