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Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I am talking specifically about fraud.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Is there a specific person with no other responsibility other than to be a project leader on fraud?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Is there a principal officer grade with overall responsibility?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Who does this person report to?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: How many assistant secretaries are in the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Does Ms O'Donoghue not consider fraud such a serious issue that it should be headed by someone at assistant secretary level?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I am looking for a crack unit that does nothing else but fraud.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Is that headed by a principal officer?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: How many people are in the team?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Is that team based all over the country?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: In 2013 to date, how much has the team detected under the heading of fraud?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I think Ms O'Donoghue gave us the figure for 2012 on a previous occasion.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: That is not all fraud.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Is this a percentage of €700 million?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 15 - Valuation Office
(18 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Therefore, the internal appeal will probably be the first step. If someone receives a valuation from the Valuation Office and is not happy with it, can he or she appeal it to the appeals commissioner?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 15 - Valuation Office
(18 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: That route is still there.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 15 - Valuation Office
(18 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Is it within the Valuation Office's wherewithal to factor in the issues of turnover, profitability and how many people a business employs?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 15 - Valuation Office
(18 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Typically, could the valuation of two similar buildings on a street differ depending on internal structures or whatever else?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 15 - Valuation Office
(18 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: In the case of Limerick, one is looking at a date of March 2014 when the proposed certificates will issue. Ratepayers will then be able to engage with the Valuation Office and the Valuation Office will be talking about publishing a final list.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 15 - Valuation Office
(18 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Is there no appeals system between the issuing of the proposed valuation certificate and the end of the process? Is it a representation rather than an appeals process?

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