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Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: One can use figures to defend anything or make any case one wants. Will the Minister imagine for one moment that he is a multimillionaire and I am a lone parent on social welfare?

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: I asked the Minister to imagine that he is. Let us imagine we both have 17 year old sons and receive child benefit. Apart from the grant in respect of clothing and footwear when the child goes back to school, the Minister can more than adequately provide for his child without difficulty. The only sum in recognition of the costs involved for me as a lone parent raising a 17 year old child...

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: The Minister should stop trying to distort the situation.

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: I am talking about a real life situation where there are two people in very different circumstances raising a 17 year old son. Leaving aside child benefit, which every child receives, the only welfare payment that will be made to me as a lone parent on social welfare for my 17 year old son is €24 per week. It is not possible to provide any quality of life for a teenager on a payment of...

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: Poverty is relative.

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: The Minister should talk to teachers in schools in disadvantaged areas about that problem.

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: When are they supposed to study for the leaving certificate?

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: A schoolchild should not have to work to survive.

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: Teenagers should not have responsibility to pay the ESB bill in their family home.

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: That is what it amounts to in many situations. That is what we are talking about.

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: The Minister is talking about this as if going out to work is an optional extra for luxuries.

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: It is important to view this in the context of what is happening in the world nowadays. The fact of the matter is that in many disadvantaged areas the educational outcomes for young people are abysmal. They remain abysmal in spite of economic growth in recent years. I refer to situations where children are not staying on in school for the leaving certificate. The figures are in double...

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: That is the reality for low-income families and families dependent on social welfare. We were speaking about how we might deal with this. It would be good to have a mature debate instead of hurling insults across the floor. The proposals on support for lone parents have merit where it is suggested that there should be a special payment for children in low-income families that would be...

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: It sounded very much like it.

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: With respect, Deputy Cullen is here in his capacity as Minister.

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: Who pays then?

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: The Minister is back-tracking.

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: The fact of the matter is that social welfare payments do not provide a living.

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: What about the ones who cannot work?

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: This has no relevance to the Bill.

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