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Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: The Government does not recognise it in the social welfare system.

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: Why does the Government not recognise that in the payments?

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: That is a cheap shot.

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: It is entirely a cheap shot.

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: The Minister should stop playing those games.

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: The Minister was asked about a specific policy area and should answer.

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: It is not for the optics. It is for pensioners paying bills.

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: The Minister should not be so disingenuous.

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: It is not true.

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: The point is that single people have fared relatively poorly.

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: The Minister needs to be honest in his line of argument.

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: The Minister is not. He is twisting the argument as usual.

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: We should bring this discussion to a close because we are going around in circles. The Minister's failure to recognise the additional costs that a single pensioner has over and above a pensioner living with somebody else has meant that in recent years single pensioners have lost out relative to pensioners living as couples or in larger family situations. Single pensioners have lost out...

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: It may have been an oversight by the Minister and his officials. Given that they have lost out relative to pensioners living as couples, we now need to pay attention to that area and ensure they do not fall further behind.

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: We are talking about the relative position.

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: I keep saying it is relative and the Minister is denying that.

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: We are all interested to hear the Minister's thinking on this matter. As Deputy Enright said, there is no consensus on what should happen. We all recognised the serious difficulties with poverty traps in the past. I refer to the disincentives encountered by persons who might have been thinking about moving from the welfare system to the workforce. There was an emphasis on child benefit...

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: Not if the child is over six years.

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: What about teenage children?

Social Welfare Bill 2007: Committee and Remaining Stages (12 Dec 2007)

Róisín Shortall: Payments that everybody receives.

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