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Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: Whatever legislation the Department is bringing forward, if it does not deal with all vulnerable children before the courts, it is only part of the issue. I ask the Department to look at the bigger picture. Maybe I am getting everything wrong here, but from what I am hearing, we are only touching one aspect of this.

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: Custody.

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: Those issues can be as important to the children-----

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: I ask Dr. Lynch to talk to me about the juvenile court. That involves the State. It involves the State prosecuting children-----

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: -----in family courts.

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: However, they are normal professional solicitors.

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: They may not have any specialist ability-----

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: -----to deal with children of 15 or 16 years of age. Are they not covered by the guardian ad litem service at all?

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: I ask Deputy Connolly to bear with me for a minute. She understands-----

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: She is probably surprised at our level of-----

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: These public family law-----

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: When we talk about public family law proceedings, we are not talking about cases in public.

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: The committee will understand my misunderstanding. I know there are learned people who represent a small percentage within the system and who understand this, but if I as a Deputy read about public family law proceedings, I only come to one conclusion, that it is a public family law proceeding, not involving-----

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: I understand that, but-----

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: -----to go back to the juvenile court, the State is involved in those cases-----

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: -----and there is no guardian ad litem-----

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: They are public hearings.

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: If I am a little bit confused, the public is confused. I take myself as a barometer. If I am confused in this issue, others will be. To return to the juvenile courts, they involve public law proceedings because it involves a public body. Dr. Lynch is telling me that in public proceedings, there is no provision for guardian ad litem.

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: There should be.

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: I am just making the point that while regular solicitors are very adept, they are doing speeding fines in the morning and dealing with these cases in the afternoon. We are talking about public law proceedings involving the State and vulnerable children who are before the courts. They are probably some of the most vulnerable children yet Dr. Lynch is telling me that the guardian ad...

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