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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: That one had the 17-year delay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Before I bring in Deputies Matthews and O'Rourke, Mr. Walsh might give us an explanation of these revenue share models. It does not have to be now but he might do that, if he is able, for us to understand ourselves. This is the last point I want to make. I am wary that the phrase "demand management" was used once upon a time about the M50 whereby it would have a multi-point tolling all...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: It was either TII or the National Transport Authority, NTA, that asked whether we see maybe a model in the longer term whereby rather than have road tax, which we talk about in terms of fossil fuels versus electric, we would have road pricing all the time. It could be very cheap in the middle of nowhere, relatively speaking, because there is no alternative. However, if people want to use...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: -----but if someone wants to drive 200,000 km per year, he or she will be paying more than somebody who does not.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I get that but is it being investigated?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Is that by TII?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Who is leading it? Is it the Department?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: No more than airlines charging more at certain times of the day than others.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: It would make sense-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: It would involve us all having a kind of shift in our thinking if TII wants to get people out of cars. If everybody wants to use cars all the time, however, that creates a problem for TII as well.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I accept that. If nobody used cars, we would not need TII either, but they will be. I will go to Deputy Matthews now. He has ten minutes and then I will bring Deputy O'Rourke back in.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Does the Deputy mean he has not read it all?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Is Mr. O'Neill dealing with the active travel budget now?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: That was the issue, that speed limits on some of the roads were-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: An operational one.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I will bring in Deputy O'Rourke, who wants to come back in.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: The variable speed limits are now finally on the M50. I saw them at the weekend for the first time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: They are now being used.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I call Deputy Matthews.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: We have some in Stillorgan now. I have had compliments about it.

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