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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: I asked for the list of people who were involved in the making of that agreement and I have not received it.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: The tripartite agreement. I specifically asked for that the last day because the Grant Thornton report states at paragraph 2.2(g): "The Director General was not involved in the drafting, signing or implementation of this agreement (being the Tri-partite)."

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: I asked for a list of who was involved and I have not received it.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: No. I have not seen the list of people who were involved in those negotiations.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: Jim Jennings was the other person who-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: It would have been helpful if we had got the list of everyone who was involved in it because this seemed to give the impression-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: I asked for the list so that we could get clarification. We were given the impression that Dee Forbes was the only person who knew everything about this. That is exactly why I looked for that list.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: I want to move on. I understand that but I asked for the list so that we could have details of everybody who was involved. That list was not given to me. On the statement that was issued, Ryan Tubridy referred to the fact that he is mentioned 15 times in the statement and he was advised of it 30 minutes before it was issued. Is that not putting the cart before the horse? Should more...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: I accept that but there is a thing called fair procedure, which everyone is entitled to. Allegations were made so surely the people who had allegations made against them had the right to have some kind of audience before it came out in the public domain in the way it was put out.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: I want to move on to one other issue, the issue of Breda O'Keeffe.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: I know, but there is a right of audience. There was talk about fair procedure. I am saying RTÉ has now been left very exposed in relation to both Dee Forbes and Ryan Tubridy in the way this was managed. Anyway, may I move on to another issue?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: There is also a duty of fair procedure.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: I do not accept that there was fair procedure. May I move on-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: No, I want to move on to one other issue. Mr. Lynch might deal with this issue as well. It is about Breda O'Keeffe and her retirement package. May I have clarification on that package? An impression has been given that it was under a redundancy package. It is important that we clarify this.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: May I get clarification on how the exit package was delivered?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: That matter is still under review.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: To go back to the director general, he will have heard Ryan Tubridy say here this week that he would like to go back on the radio. On the basis of what has occurred here and the way RTÉ is, in my view, now very exposed, is there an opportunity now to involve some kind of mediation process if there was a decision taken to review the way in which Mr. Tubridy is now not in RTÉ? I...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: My second question was the salary Mr. Tubridy is currently on. He is not providing service to RTÉ now. Are RTÉ and the taxpayer still paying his salary?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: Is Mr. Bakhurst saying there is no salary being currently paid?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: That is as and from this week only.

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