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Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: We have limited time. We should have all of the relevant reports in order that we can ask relevant questions on value for money. There should be a list of them. To refer the previous Committee of Public Accounts committee is of little use to us because we were not members of that committee. We require a practical list of what reports have been done on various issues that will help us to...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: I am as anxious as anyone else to move on. I attempted to get a copy of the report through the secretariat. It predates our access to records. Can we have a clear summary or list of the relevant reports that have been done, rather than having members trying to find out which report is which and reading through correspondence and submissions. We need a list with bullet points of the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: We should have copies of the reports as well as the letters.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Yes, but it was presented in 2017. Rather than trying to tease out if there is more than one report, can we have copies of all of the reports? Is that too much to ask?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: On a general point, this did not happen in the last few days. The report of the Comptroller and Auditor General includes a chapter on the specific issue of Miesian Plaza. The report should be with us. This letter that we presumably all received was sent to the Office of Public Works for comment following our previous meeting. There is a report, there are letters and there is the Office of...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: I thank Mr. Buckley.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Indirectly, they are related.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Cuireann an easpa ban iontas orm i gcónaí.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Níl a fhios agam an cheart "go raibh maith agat" a rá mar fhreagra ar an easpa ban, ach is rud eile é sin. I am looking at the spending review from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform. It is a very good overview. I am not too sure about the conclusions. I wish I was here looking at the OPW in respect of the very important work it carries out. It looks after...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: No, recalibrated in terms of the new measurements. I will go to paragraph 21. It is not the way Mr. Buckley is telling it; it was actually brought to his attention. If we look at paragraph 6.21, we can see that it was clearly brought to Mr. Buckley's attention. Paragraph 6.21 states that "in finalising the lease, the issue of the different measurement bases was considered." It states...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: The OPW failed to do that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Mr. Buckley has said that openly. Second, there is no confusion here with regard to extra space or the office being extended. No office was extended. It was the exact same building. It involved a different type of measurement but the overall area was the same.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: And the overall area was the same. It just involved a recalibration of how to do it per square metre or square foot. That is all. There was no extra space. It was about whether the pillars were included or things like that. Is that not right?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: No message is to go out here that there was confusion over extra space. There was no extra space. It was the exact same building - just a different way of measuring. The OPW did not recalibrate. It was advised to do so but it did not do so. The OPW did not discover that; the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General did. Is that not right? The OPW's internal processes did not...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Which colleague will tell me when this was discovered before the Comptroller and Auditor General discovered it?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: What is Mr. Bourke's role?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: When did Mr. Bourke ask for that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: What alerted him to look for an internal review?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Where or how did the Comptroller and Auditor General become aware of this?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: When was that?

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