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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: We are joined by the Comptroller and Auditor General, Mr. Seamus McCarthy, who is a permanent witness. Apologies have been received from Deputy Marc MacSharry. The first item on the agenda is the minutes of the meeting of 14 December 2016. Are the minutes agreed to? Agreed. As there are no matters arising from the minutes, we will proceed to correspondence received since the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: I will help on that. The first two items we have deal with are the opening statements for this morning.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: I will explain what we are doing. The correspondence has come in. Some people might only get to look at them today or tomorrow. We have received two items of correspondence from NAMA in the past week. They are detailed letters. Today, we are noting them and publishing them. We are making no comment on them.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: I will explain the position for the benefit of people here. We will deal with correspondence reports in our work programme. Before we start the session dealing with the Department of Children and Youth Affairs we will go into private session briefly to discuss the progress report and so on.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will have a brief discussion at that stage in private session and then we will go back into public session. For now, we will note and publish them. We can discuss them later. Items Nos. 230B, 235B, 236B, 237B, 255B and 260B are next. We have received these six detailed letters from NAMA since our last meeting. They have not been published previously. Some people will want to see...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: Seemingly, after the original PIMCO letter, which I have before me, you issued a press release in a personal capacity challenging the previous NAMA evidence base. NAMA has written to the committee calling for fair procedure. The document is coming up on the screen. If you want to take a moment and come back to us, Deputy McDonald, that is fine. It is a comment. It is a response to a...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: There is no purpose. The only reason is that NAMA sent an e-mail arising from your press release. This is correspondence from NAMA and we have to record it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: It is there for the record because NAMA has sent us an e-mail.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will ensure that before the completion of our work.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: Items Nos. 239B(i) and 239B(ii) are correspondence from the Secretary General of the Department of Social Protection with follow-up information after an appearance before the committee to discuss debts owed by companies or business to the Social Insurance Fund. Essentially, the correspondence outlines that we asked detailed questions, the Department is preparing a report and we will have it...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: The €7 million is not the cost of the project. It is the over-spend. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: The amount in question is the over-spend. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: Deputy Cullinane is next. Then we will move on.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: When we are writing to the HSE, as well as the letter from Deputy McGrath we will give the executive the transcript of this meeting. It will accompany the letter to the HSE. We will come back to this topic. Next we have items Nos. 226C, 256C and 259C. They are from an individual and relate to previous correspondence to the committee alleging corruption and illegality in the trade unions...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will come back to the work programme in a few minutes. We can deal with it at the work programme stage. Next is item No. 231C, correspondence from an individual based in Australia relating to alleged Government corruption. A number of allegations have been made but there is no specific detail. I propose that we write to the individual and explain that if he has evidence of corruption...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: When was the report given to the Minister?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: It has just been given to him.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: Technically, he has 90 days; therefore, he could release it next week or in 80 days time, but we will be dealing with it in the near future. It will be included in our work programme.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: Is it a special report?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: It is a special report by the Comptroller and Auditor General and we will certainly deal with it as soon as it is cleared by the Cabinet and published by the Minister. For our information, does the Cabinet or the Minister have any other role apart from publishing the report? Can they change it?

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