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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Retrofitting Schemes: Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland (11 Oct 2022)

Brian Leddin: I thank Ms McCarthy. Deputy O'Rourke is next.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Retrofitting Schemes: Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland (11 Oct 2022)

Brian Leddin: Mr. Randles might know.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Retrofitting Schemes: Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland (11 Oct 2022)

Brian Leddin: Does Mr. Randles want to come in?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Retrofitting Schemes: Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland (11 Oct 2022)

Brian Leddin: The Deputy should give them more than 20 seconds to reply.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Retrofitting Schemes: Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland (11 Oct 2022)

Brian Leddin: I have sympathy for our guests. Usually questions are spread among more guests. It feels like quite an interrogation. On the point about batteries made by Deputy Cronin a few minutes ago and, I think, by Deputy Whitmore earlier, correct me if I am wrong but the rationale for this scheme is not to protect medically vulnerable people from a power cut situation but to reduce their costs by...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Retrofitting Schemes: Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland (11 Oct 2022)

Brian Leddin: I want to go back to the issue of district heating. Did the study primarily examine existing waste heat streams, potential future waste heat streams or both?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Retrofitting Schemes: Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland (11 Oct 2022)

Brian Leddin: That is quite interesting. It is going the other way rather than saying we have this much heat and how can we use it, and we have this much demand and how can we now match the generation of heat.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Retrofitting Schemes: Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland (11 Oct 2022)

Brian Leddin: One could identify, or SEAI has identified, via the heat study that there are certain places that do not have a heat source but are suitable for district heating. We could take that result and put them in places where there are many heavy industrial plants that will have waste heat, which is ideal for district heating.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Retrofitting Schemes: Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland (11 Oct 2022)

Brian Leddin: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Retrofitting Schemes: Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland (11 Oct 2022)

Brian Leddin: Acknowledging that we are starting out on a long journey here with district heating, I am conscious that we want to push on as well. I am wondering what the next steps are. Obviously, that heat study is a foundation for our understanding of demand, but what happens next? We mentioned matching heat generation with demand. What kind of policy developments or reforms are needed going forward?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Retrofitting Schemes: Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland (11 Oct 2022)

Brian Leddin: Before Ms Sheehan comes in, and I suspect I know the answer to this, is the capability not there at local authority level? Local authorities tend not to employ mechanical engineers. Am I correct that is the skillset that is needed there to understand energy and heat? Maybe some are better than others.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Retrofitting Schemes: Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland (11 Oct 2022)

Brian Leddin: They will understand their own area quite well but might not understand the opportunity that exists in their own area.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Retrofitting Schemes: Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland (11 Oct 2022)

Brian Leddin: I am conscious that we plan on building hundreds of thousands of homes in the next few years but I wonder is there enough thinking around district heating. It is probably not for Ms McCarthy to answer. All this work is good but, separately, all those homes are being planned. Much of it is developer-led. It seems that a ball could be dropped here quite easily and opportunities missed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Retrofitting Schemes: Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland (11 Oct 2022)

Brian Leddin: Is the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage on the group?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Retrofitting Schemes: Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland (11 Oct 2022)

Brian Leddin: I thank Ms Sheehan.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Retrofitting Schemes: Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland (11 Oct 2022)

Brian Leddin: I thank Deputy Devlin and call Deputy O’Rourke.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Retrofitting Schemes: Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland (11 Oct 2022)

Brian Leddin: I thank the Deputy and call Deputy Ó Murchú now, please.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Retrofitting Schemes: Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland (11 Oct 2022)

Brian Leddin: I am conscious of time and this is a conversation that could go on. I welcome the Deputy's interest and curiosity about the different solutions that might be out there but we are out of time. We are up to 2 o'clock so I will cut it there. I thank our guests, especially those of you who have come in to Leinster House today to meet with us, but also to Mr. O'Mahony and Mr. Randles who...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Retrofitting Schemes: Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland (11 Oct 2022)

Brian Leddin: Okay. We should give the witnesses a chance to respond to that as well.

Ceisteanna Eile - Other Questions: Public Sector Staff (4 Oct 2022)

Brian Leddin: It is not my place to try to answer Deputy Boyd Barrett's question but I will propose a solution that I would like the Minister to listen to. I would make a case for my home of Limerick - I am sure that the Minister of State, Deputy O'Donovan, makes this case to the Minister daily - as a solution to the challenges facing Ireland. As Deputy Boyd Barrett outlined, it is difficult for people...

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