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Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: I am reading the information we got from the board and from our periodic report No. 6. Paragraph H.10 of our report says: Members questioned the cost of Phase A, the substructure, in relation to the overall project. The NPHDB stated that Phase A works were approximately €100m, including VAT, of all project costs. This represents approximately 7% of the current construction cost...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: It is going to make the rest of my questioning difficult if I cannot get the cost of what has already been completed, never mind-----

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: I would have thought that somebody would know the cost. We have this in our report. The board has not told us that it had any problem with its figures. We got these figures from the board; we did not make them up. It says that costs for phase A were approximately €100 million, including VAT. That would be equal to €85 million, €86 million or €87 million plus VAT.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: What does Mr. Barry believe the full figure is including VAT?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: I am not tying him to that €100 million.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: That is €100 million.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will say it is €109 million.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: It is €100 million.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: The figure we had in our periodic report some time ago stands.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: That is okay. Given that this phase has been completed, can the board give us the breakdown of that figure between the main contractor and other contractors? Do the witnesses have a breakdown of that €100 million?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: We want to get it.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: I have a difficulty as Chairman of the Committee of Public Accounts. We are looking at the board's 2018 accounts. We have done a periodic report and the board has been in here twice. This is its third time before the committee this year. It was here at the beginning of January and in May. We did a periodic report based on figures provided in respect of the board. I asked a basic...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: I know that.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: I would have thought that somebody coming in with the 2018 financial statements that have been signed off by the board, audited, approved by Cabinet, lodged with the Oireachtas, noted and presented at the committee would be able to give us information on any figure within those accounts. That is what the Committee of Public Accounts is about. Getting a set of accounts is just the start of...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Whatever. We might not be here for too much longer. I am expressing the frustration of all members here today. We were here last January and we extracted the figure of €1.433 billion at that meeting. We have not been given one single new figure today, 11 months on. There is a bit of frustration on this side of the table. We have a set of audited accounts and when I asked my first...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Believe it or not, I am going there. I am starting from the board's financial statements, which include a reference to phase A. I am not inventing a question. I am asking for details on matters the board refers to in paragraph 7, page 35 of its financial statements. It is fine. I will take the figure of €100 million for now. We will get the breakdown. Can anyone indicate how...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: That is nice to know. That is the breakdown. Mr. Devine has answered that question. I will take that as an answer. I am now moving on to phase B. I am reading on in the same paragraph: "In 2018, having agreed the GMP [guaranteed maximum price] for the project, the contract for the main works [which was held by BAM, if I am correct] was awarded for €887.7m (ex vat)". VAT came to...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: So that is €1.007 billion plus the €100 million.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: That is fine. I am just trying to get information. Phase A is part of the overall thing. It had been referred to separately and I wondered whether it was a separate issue. I will now refer to the chart which provides the breakdown of the figure of €1.433 billion, which is on page 88 of our periodic report No.6. Do the witnesses have this chart in front of them?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Okay. It is just not up on the screen. There is a row titled "Net Main NCH Construction". Does the big figure of €890 million refer to the BAM element?