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Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 10 - Office of Public Works
(23 May 2013)

John McGuinness: Is it fair to say that the OPW was like an independent Department in there? The chairman was her own independent Accounting Officer.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 10 - Office of Public Works
(23 May 2013)

John McGuinness: At that stage, it had its own line Minister.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 10 - Office of Public Works
(23 May 2013)

John McGuinness: However, it was subject to the Department of Finance. The OPW was within the Department of Finance and had its own independent Accounting Officer and line Minister. The OPW is now under the remit of the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 10 - Office of Public Works
(23 May 2013)

John McGuinness: I am asking about how the Department of Finance was structured at the time.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 10 - Office of Public Works
(23 May 2013)

John McGuinness: And at the time, the OPW had its own line Minister.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 10 - Office of Public Works
(23 May 2013)

John McGuinness: The OPW was within the Department of Finance.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 10 - Office of Public Works
(23 May 2013)

John McGuinness: Therefore, at any stage, the line Minister or someone senior in this Department could have said "Yes" or "No" to the project. Depending on the outcome of the authority, the OPW had the authority to accept or reject it. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 10 - Office of Public Works
(23 May 2013)

John McGuinness: The OPW has moved recently. What Department is it in now?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 10 - Office of Public Works
(23 May 2013)

John McGuinness: Mr. Watt is the Accounting Officer for the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 10 - Office of Public Works
(23 May 2013)

John McGuinness: That is what I am saying. Ms McGrath is the Accounting Officer for the OPW. To touch on one of the lighter accounts, the use of toilet rolls, does the OPW purchase those?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 10 - Office of Public Works
(23 May 2013)

John McGuinness: Toilet rolls.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 10 - Office of Public Works
(23 May 2013)

John McGuinness: Do you supply those toilet rolls to every Department?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 10 - Office of Public Works
(23 May 2013)

John McGuinness: I am not trying to pin this on Ms McGrath. I am just interested because I have never seen a newspaper get so many column inches out of a toilet roll story. The framework is there by which other Departments can purchase.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 10 - Office of Public Works
(23 May 2013)

John McGuinness: Who is that contract with?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 10 - Office of Public Works
(23 May 2013)

John McGuinness: How much is the contract worth?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 10 - Office of Public Works
(23 May 2013)

John McGuinness: We had better clarify this. This €2 million was not for my use; it was for use right across Departments.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 10 - Office of Public Works
(23 May 2013)

John McGuinness: The contract was with Boylans.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 10 - Office of Public Works
(23 May 2013)

John McGuinness: How much was it worth?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 10 - Office of Public Works
(23 May 2013)

John McGuinness: That would have covered janitorial supplies, generally.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 10 - Office of Public Works
(23 May 2013)

John McGuinness: Does the OPW specify particular grades of toilet roll within the contract?

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