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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (2 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: It was a staffing decision not a political decision.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (2 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: It is not by us up here now.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (2 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: We had extra meetings.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (2 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will come to a conclusion. I call Deputy Kelly followed by Deputy Madigan.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (2 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: I will find that out.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (2 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: That has only happened in recent weeks and we will seek clarification on that. They probably felt we were almost there. We should have been allowed to complete it with the complement and we would have been there now.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (2 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: I will get all that clarified and we will take it up. A week or two ago we scheduled not to have any other business next week so that we would be able to deal with the report from the secretariat. I am satisfied that we will have that report from the secretariat, but at this stage we may not have it in sufficient time to have that meeting next Thursday. Our original intention a couple of...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (2 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: No. Correct.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (2 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: I understand they both happened at the same time. There may not be a link.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (2 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: I will not prejudge that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (2 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will move on. There will be a final document from the secretariat, which is not a draft report of the Committee of Public Accounts. One final-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (2 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will draft that letter. That letter will be sent by me, as Chairman, to the Ceann Comhairle.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (2 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: I will accept responsibility for that. The clerk checked with me and I said that we cannot release the document until we are in a position to release it to everybody. I held back until this morning's meeting because I wanted to clarify the position for all members. Staffing issues are not normally within the remit of politicians in the House. We did get some extra support but it is very...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (2 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: By the end of next week all members will have the final output from the secretariat. That is the document that we will sit down, as elected members of this committee, to discuss and then we will start making our amendments to it. At that time it will become a draft report of the committee, ultimately leading to a final report fairly soon thereafter, I hope. The document that will be...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (2 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will see how we get on next week with that document from the secretariat. Any breach of confidentiality by any member of the committee will mean that we will have to put measures in place when we are preparing the draft report. We will discuss those measures at that stage.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (2 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: In truth, there is a meeting scheduled for 16 February and I would hope that we could have a first discussion on the draft report on Tuesday or Wednesday of that week. We will wait and see but that is a possibility. In the meantime, our work schedule is as follows. On Thursday, 16 February we will be meeting the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine to discuss the appropriation...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (2 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: UCC. Okay. We will try to schedule those for the first meeting. If any member wants the committee to invite a particular university to either of those two meetings, he or she should pass a request on to the secretariat but we will not be able to cover all of the universities. We will have to decide which ones to invite and we will certainly have to look at the biggest ones.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (2 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will probably come to them a week or two after the meeting on 6 April. We will meet the universities first and then the institutes of technology. Which university has the biggest budget? Is it UCD or TCD?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (2 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will probably need to bring in the two biggest institutions. Their scale is such that they must be examined. We will work to set up meetings with those two universities and if any member wants any particular issue to be highlighted, he or she should let the secretariat know so that the universities can be given advance notice.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (2 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: Okay, that is fine. On Thursday, 13 April we will meet the Department of Justice and Equality to discuss the Department's Vote and the procurement and management of contracts for the direct provision system. That meeting has not been fully confirmed as yet but that is the plan. We are meeting the Department of Justice and Equality today but that is strictly to deal with the prisons issue....

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