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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: When will that master licence record system be fully operational?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: This is disturbing because Mr. Doyle comes in with his 2015 annual report, which refers to this project, yet here we are in 2017 and he says it could take two years. That is not a satisfactory arrangement in terms of road safety issues. I have to start at the beginning because Mr. Doyle has told me that he has not solved this problem at all. The problem today is as acute as it was before...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will come back to that but bear with me. We will park the fixed-charge notices - they are the fines - for a moment. Let us just talk about the penalty pints. If one pays, it is on the system. Can Mr. Doyle explain what then happens in court when a person has contested it and they receive additional penalty points? Is Mr. Doyle telling me that system has been knocked down?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: What system does Mr. Doyle have in place to ensure he gets that information? He said, "If the courts happen to send this, we might get it", but what system is in place to ensure the court does that and the Department can record them?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: Is there a system in place?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: What is the notification method and how often do they exchange this information?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: It does not work.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: Does Mr. Doyle have a memorandum of understanding with the courts service?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: We know what the Department would like to achieve. Does it have a memorandum of understanding in place as we speak on this?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: There is only one Courts Service. I certainly hope the Department is not dealing with courts individually.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: We all share that objective but is that happening? How many penalty points levied in court ended in notices? The report indicates there were 490,000 penalty point notices issued during 2015. How many notices of penalty points were levied in the courts between 2014 and 2016 and have been put on people's driver licences? Do those figures exist?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: Right. They will be sent to us.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: The Department is a long way back from having this cracked. Mr. Doyle has said it is two years away but it was mentioned in the 2015 annual report. Is it the Courts Service or the Department that is dragging its feet?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: Who is in charge of making this happen? Is it the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: Who is the chairman of the project team?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: What level is the Department's person who is chairing that project team?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: We require the minutes or records of the meetings of that project team and how it has progressed since 2015. It was referenced in the 2015 account. Mr. Doyle tells me today that it is two years away but he has not convinced me that anything substantial has happened in the mean time. He told me there is a project team and although I am sure the principal officer is an outstanding...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will be finished by then.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: The Dáil will be voting in ten minutes and I want to bring in two more Deputies. This particular question-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will write directly to the NTA, which is the licensing authority, to get the exact answer. It is a separate body. It can answer this question. I ask Deputy Cullinane to give way because I want to bring in two more Deputies before the scheduled vote in the Dáil.

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