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Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Marc MacSharry: The National Transport Authority has nothing to do with that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Marc MacSharry: In fleecing the Youghal commuter to Cork, this is exclusively Bus Éireann's baby.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Marc MacSharry: If it were not a commercial service, would the authority have a view on the practice of charging the person going half the journey twice the price of the person going the full journey?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Marc MacSharry: On the basis that this is a commercial service and the NTA has no role, to Ms Graham's knowledge does anybody have a role in taking Bus Éireann aside to tell it to make it right because it is discriminatory?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Marc MacSharry: To whom would they complain?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Bus Éireann may say, "Thanks for your complaint, but that is what it is anyway."

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Marc MacSharry: We are funding Bus Éireann apart from its ticket charges. Have we no leverage to let it know that this is not on?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Marc MacSharry: However, the company is. Let us pull away the company, Bus Éireann-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Marc MacSharry: So no one has any role here. This is a commercial mandate of Bus Éireann, and if it can get away with fleecing the people of Youghal, then more power to it. Is that our view?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Would the Minister have a role there?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Marc MacSharry: In light of Ms Graham's proximity to this matter, was she aware of the case I just outlined?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Marc MacSharry: The NTA has no role. I understand that perhaps in the municipal area of Cork County Council, Bus Éireann attended and indicated that the NTA had a role in that aspect. It does not.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Marc MacSharry: That is clear. To be helpful to us, would Ms Graham have knowledge that this is being replicated in other cases?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Marc MacSharry: I understand that. Ms Graham became aware of this a couple of weeks ago. Are there other cases she would be aware of where, albeit not the NTA's responsibility-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Nothing has come to her attention. Therefore, this could be an individual case or it could be happening in every county in Ireland, but it is on the commercial side and not on the NTA's side. Is that fair?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Chairman, this is something we might like to raise with Bus Éireann. The example I gave is true and it certainly would be highly discriminatory against the people of Youghal in particular. If it is the practice nationally, it needs to be investigated. I know the Joint Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport may take a view. We are funding this company in some way, albeit for a...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Marc MacSharry: I think we could. We could usefully have its representatives in. It is about value for money. While I appreciate we are not funding it for its commercial services, it is in the public interest that we would have some leverage with this company to follow fair pricing practices for people.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Maybe the Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Marc MacSharry: If I buy a ticket on any of the PSO services, do I have a right to a seat under EU passenger rights obligations?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Does it imply that a person is entitled to a seat on a bus and not a train?

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