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Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: CHI covers Dublin and some eastern counties.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: It is not part of the job of CHI. Those hospitals fall outside its remit.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Ms Hardiman referred to Ireland east. The impression was given earlier in the meeting that files and patient records have been integrated such that there are no paper records but people from outside the greater Dublin area will not be part of the patient integrated system and as such, will have paper files. Ms Hardiman gave an impression that everything goes on electronically but everyone...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Are there 1.2 million children or records?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: How many children does that cover?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: That will not happen between now and the opening of the new children's hospital. It is further down the road.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: For children.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: That is a long time away. It is being done in parts. It has been indicated that it is not being done in one job. It could take a decade for it to be completed.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: I ask Mr. Breslin to repeat that in English.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Consequently, in due course but not yet, the records held by a hospital in Portlaoise on a child who then comes up to Dublin will be compatible. Reference was made to 4,000 staff being under CHI. Whose staff are they?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Were they HSE employees?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Where did they come from?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: CHI pays them now.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Where is CHI based?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Is payroll and so on centralised through CHI?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: I thank Ms Hardiman. I wanted to clarify that. What happens when the children become adults? Where do their records go?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: The next question is directed to Mr. Barry or whoever wants to deal with it. On the financial statements, I wish to deal with capital commitments, which appear on page 25. In January of this year, the witnesses' predecessors appeared before the committee and on that day, we were given the famous figure of €1.433 billion, which was put together over the lunch break and revealed when...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: I am focusing on phase A first.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: What was the total cost of phase A?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: No.

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