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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Chapter 7 - EU Refunds and Levies in the Agriculture Sector
(16 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: Mr. O'Driscoll might explain to those present and who are watching whether there are ministerial appointees to the board. Presumably, there is a liaison officer between the Department and Bord na gCon who keeps in touch on daily matters, budgets and other activities. Apprise us of the practical arrangements.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Chapter 7 - EU Refunds and Levies in the Agriculture Sector
(16 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Chapter 7 - EU Refunds and Levies in the Agriculture Sector
(16 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: It has attended previously, but the Deputy is right. The Limerick stadium was the subject of detailed discussions during the previous Dáil. Will Mr. O'Driscoll explain his Department's practical contacts? It cannot just give Bord na gCon €14 million and let it go.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Chapter 7 - EU Refunds and Levies in the Agriculture Sector
(16 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: There must be some liaison. What is the process?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Chapter 7 - EU Refunds and Levies in the Agriculture Sector
(16 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: We understand all of that. Directors have fiduciary duties.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Chapter 7 - EU Refunds and Levies in the Agriculture Sector
(16 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: Even if they are appointed by Ministers, their duties are to the board, not the Ministers. However, Mr. O'Driscoll is the Accounting Officer writing the cheque for €14 million per annum.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Chapter 7 - EU Refunds and Levies in the Agriculture Sector
(16 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: Mr. O'Driscoll has not explained the day-to-day or month-to-month relationship. Does the liaison officer, whoever it may be, meet Bord na gCon once per month, once per week or three times per year? What is the purpose of those meetings? What happens? We know about the board, but we are asking about departmental officials. The Department must have someone with a watching brief, seeing as...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Chapter 7 - EU Refunds and Levies in the Agriculture Sector
(16 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: Fine.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Chapter 7 - EU Refunds and Levies in the Agriculture Sector
(16 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: Specify. "Regular and frequent" means nothing to me. Is it daily, monthly, weekly or fortnightly? Where are the meetings held and who attends? How does the system work in practice?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Chapter 7 - EU Refunds and Levies in the Agriculture Sector
(16 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Chapter 7 - EU Refunds and Levies in the Agriculture Sector
(16 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: How often does Mr. Gleeson meet people from Bord na gCon? He said once per quarter.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Chapter 7 - EU Refunds and Levies in the Agriculture Sector
(16 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: Has Mr. Gleeson a principal officer who meets the board?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Chapter 7 - EU Refunds and Levies in the Agriculture Sector
(16 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: How often do those meetings happen?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Chapter 7 - EU Refunds and Levies in the Agriculture Sector
(16 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: Where? How many from the Department attend?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Chapter 7 - EU Refunds and Levies in the Agriculture Sector
(16 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: The Oireachtas has made it standard practice since last summer that the letter of invitation to witnesses include the sentence that they have somebody who can make a call to their Department or offices because a meeting can go on for a couple of hours

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Chapter 7 - EU Refunds and Levies in the Agriculture Sector
(16 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: That allows us to get information if it is not immediately to hand. We are often told that information will be sent to us. Mr. O'Driscoll is meant to have someone available here who could make a telephone call to have that question answered for us.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Chapter 7 - EU Refunds and Levies in the Agriculture Sector
(16 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: For the benefit of people watching, can the Deputy explain what the CEDRA report is? He and I might know but some people will not.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Chapter 7 - EU Refunds and Levies in the Agriculture Sector
(16 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: He opened up that topic.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Chapter 7 - EU Refunds and Levies in the Agriculture Sector
(16 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: How much of that would be in Portlaoise?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Chapter 7 - EU Refunds and Levies in the Agriculture Sector
(16 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will come back to that in a moment. I wish to ask a few questions. I think Deputy Aylward may also have some final questions.

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