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Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 35 - Army Pensions
Vote 36 - Defence
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 12: Stock Management in the Defence Forces
(23 May 2024)

Verona Murphy: I would have thought that as Secretary General, it would be a conflict and that Ms McCrum would be able to voice that in her opinion.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 35 - Army Pensions
Vote 36 - Defence
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 12: Stock Management in the Defence Forces
(23 May 2024)

Verona Murphy: I absolutely accept that-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 35 - Army Pensions
Vote 36 - Defence
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 12: Stock Management in the Defence Forces
(23 May 2024)

Verona Murphy: -----but I would also say that there is a level of-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 35 - Army Pensions
Vote 36 - Defence
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 12: Stock Management in the Defence Forces
(23 May 2024)

Verona Murphy: I am sure that if Commissioner Harris was asked to go on GSOC, he would probably have to give advice-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 35 - Army Pensions
Vote 36 - Defence
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 12: Stock Management in the Defence Forces
(23 May 2024)

Verona Murphy: That is all I was asking, Chair.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 May 2024)

Verona Murphy: When do we have a meeting with the HRI in the diary? We will be looking at it shortly.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 May 2024)

Verona Murphy: I agree. We need the information.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 May 2024)

Verona Murphy: No, because on 20 June, a representative from HRI has also been invited.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 May 2024)

Verona Murphy: I think so.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 May 2024)

Verona Murphy: I did not hear that from the Comptroller and Auditor General.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Office of Minister for Education
(16 May 2024)

Verona Murphy: Good morning to everybody. I want to add to the questions on modular accommodation. A number of schools are waiting. Mr. Loftus might brief me on when they will be informed. Some of them are accommodating classes in their general-purpose areas and maybe even in school halls. Will that be remedied for the coming school year?

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Office of Minister for Education
(16 May 2024)

Verona Murphy: I apologise for interrupting but my clock is ticking. I accept that. I might need a further meeting on certain projects, rather than holding up the committee-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Office of Minister for Education
(16 May 2024)

Verona Murphy: I know that the Department worked very hard over the summer last year and sometimes the summer is when it engages with the principal or the people concerned, but it is about being sure there will not be a continuation of the use of prefab cabins or the school hall as opposed to a classroom setting. Turning to Ms Conduit, in March of this year, representation was made by a party colleague...

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Office of Minister for Education
(16 May 2024)

Verona Murphy: In March of this year, a third bus was laid on. Why was it laid on in March and not in September?

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Office of Minister for Education
(16 May 2024)

Verona Murphy: Everyone knows the context of how the school transport scheme works, and I do not have much time. I will have to come back in repeatedly. I therefore ask the witnesses to please specifically answer how a third bus was laid on for the students who required it in September, but it only happened in March. How and why did this happen?

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Office of Minister for Education
(16 May 2024)

Verona Murphy: These were all concessionary ticket holders. All of them were.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Office of Minister for Education
(16 May 2024)

Verona Murphy: They are not concessionary ticket holders if they had been turned down by their closest school. A third bus was laid on in March. How and why did that happen? Why was it not laid on in September?

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Office of Minister for Education
(16 May 2024)

Verona Murphy: Okay. Are there still three buses on that route?

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Office of Minister for Education
(16 May 2024)

Verona Murphy: Well, the information I have tells me different. which is that all students are now being accommodated on the original two buses. The third bus was laid on for one week only and all the students who could not be catered for in September are now being catered for on the two original buses.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Office of Minister for Education
(16 May 2024)

Verona Murphy: That is not the question I asked. I asked whether there are now two buses on the route or whether there are three.

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