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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Cormac Devlin: When does Ms McPhillips hope that piece of work will be concluded?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Cormac Devlin: That community service aspect was patchy in the run-up to the onset of the pandemic and stopped thereafter.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Cormac Devlin: That is correct.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Cormac Devlin: I thank Mr. O'Sullivan for that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Cormac Devlin: I will turn now to consider compensation and legal costs, specifically table 6.2 in the document relating to Vote 21. I am struck by the number of claims that have been made by prisoners for injury and other actions involving prisoners. There are 445 claims of that kind and more than €2 million has been awarded in compensation. There are 107 civil claims for injuries received while...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Cormac Devlin: What about the prisoners' claims? Does Ms McCaffrey have a percentage breakdown of the types of claims they are making? I heard what she said about sanitation but can she give us examples of other types of claims that are being made?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Cormac Devlin: Please do. A percentage breakdown would be helpful.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Cormac Devlin: I wish to pick up where I left off from the previous session. Much has been said about Thornton Hall and it is also referenced in the Comptroller and Auditor General's comments. I note the expenditure on the construction in Limerick, which is very welcome. What is being done regarding Mountjoy Prison? What are the plans to upgrade Mountjoy Prison?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Cormac Devlin: What is the timeframe for that to be utilised?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Cormac Devlin: It should be acknowledged that it was particularly difficult for the staff in the Prison Service during the pandemic. There were certain scenarios that could be accommodated and some that could not. However, I acknowledge the work of the Prison Service in engaging with both families and public representatives in that regard. That is good news about Mountjoy and the Dóchas centre. ...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Cormac Devlin: That is good. With regard to the Property Services Regulatory Authority, I found it very problematic during the pandemic, obviously because staff were working remotely. There is a slight overspend there of €162,000. Is that service fully operational again now?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Cormac Devlin: What about recruitment?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Cormac Devlin: Okay, because that was an issue. What is the update on the gambling regulatory authority?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Cormac Devlin: The Department is going to appoint a CEO-designate.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Cormac Devlin: I know that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Cormac Devlin: Okay. In theory, how long is it before we expect to have somebody if the recruitment process is successful?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Cormac Devlin: That is good to know. The next two matters are linked. They are the funding for prevention of domestic, sexual and gender-based violence as well as funding for services for victims of crime. I note the services to the victims of crime increased during the pandemic for obvious reasons, unfortunately, as did the expenditure relating to domestic, sexual and gender-based violence. Can Ms...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Cormac Devlin: It is to be hoped that we will see an increase in that funding in the Department into the future because it is something that is really needed. The pandemic just exposed it. It does not mean it is going to go away, as Ms McPhillips knows. It exacerbated the problem.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Cormac Devlin: Ultimately, there is this clear sign that victims need these services. They availed of the services due to probably extreme duress and stress, but we certainly need to look at that. I will leave that in Ms McPhillips's capable hands.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Cormac Devlin: Yes. I thank the witnesses.

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