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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (7 Jul 2021)

Martin Conway: Did anyone within the risk management process raise a flag that postponing the final determination and outcome of the 900 claims could be a risky strategy?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (7 Jul 2021)

Martin Conway: When is this phase expected to finish such that the board could start dealing with claims on a real-time basis?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (7 Jul 2021)

Martin Conway: I accept the motivation behind that and it is admirable. We all want to see the hospital completed. Have the components of the risk management team conducted an analysis to show what the exposure to the taxpayer would be should the board not succeed in defending all 900 claims or most of them?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (7 Jul 2021)

Martin Conway: What I am looking for is the worst-case scenario.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (7 Jul 2021)

Martin Conway: Does the board have a definitive update on that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (7 Jul 2021)

Martin Conway: I do not dispute that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (7 Jul 2021)

Martin Conway: Does Mr. Gunning accept that the perception among the public is that there is an open chequebook for the children's hospital? When it was first presented to the public two or three years ago, the cost was €600 million to €700 million. In the space of three to four years, the cost has risen to €1.433 billion. We are in the position now where claims have been suspended....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (7 Jul 2021)

Martin Conway: I never stated Mr. Gunning said that. I said that Deputy Gino Kenny had presented the proposition to him.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (7 Jul 2021)

Martin Conway: Mr. Gunning will accept that we all share a common goal in that regard. It is reasonable at this stage to assume that the cost will go beyond €1.433 billion.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (7 Jul 2021)

Martin Conway: Can we all agree that the cost will be in excess of €1.433 billion?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (7 Jul 2021)

Martin Conway: The final cost will be significantly higher than that figure.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (7 Jul 2021)

Martin Conway: I am not looking for a definitive figure. I am just looking for an acknowledgement that it will be significantly higher.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (7 Jul 2021)

Martin Conway: That is fine.

Joint Committee On Health: Impacts of Covid-19 on Youth Mental Health and Psychological Services: Discussion (6 Jul 2021)

Martin Conway: As we have a quorum we will commence the meeting in public session. Are the minutes of the meeting of 17 June, which have been circulated, agreed? Agreed. I welcome our witnesses to the meeting this morning. They will be presenting virtually. This meeting has two elements. We will hear about the impact of Covid-19 on youth mental health. We will also hear about the difficulties...

Joint Committee On Health: Impacts of Covid-19 on Youth Mental Health and Psychological Services: Discussion (6 Jul 2021)

Martin Conway: I thank Ms Cummins for a very comprehensive presentation. I now call on Ms Marina Dillon, the founder of CARE for Psychologists, to make her opening statement.

Joint Committee On Health: Impacts of Covid-19 on Youth Mental Health and Psychological Services: Discussion (6 Jul 2021)

Martin Conway: I thank Ms Dillon and her colleagues. We like it when we get clear and definite recommendations. We will be making a report and such recommendations will help inform that. Members will now have an opportunity to engage with the witnesses, usually for ten minutes, but there is an opportunity for latitude. I should also pass on the apologies of our Chair, Senator Black, who is unavoidably...

Joint Committee On Health: Impacts of Covid-19 on Youth Mental Health and Psychological Services: Discussion (6 Jul 2021)

Martin Conway: Does Ms Cummins wish to reply first? Ms Reynolds should feel free to respond to the issues raised by Senator Hoey as well.

Joint Committee On Health: Impacts of Covid-19 on Youth Mental Health and Psychological Services: Discussion (6 Jul 2021)

Martin Conway: Does Ms Dillon wish to reply?

Joint Committee On Health: Impacts of Covid-19 on Youth Mental Health and Psychological Services: Discussion (6 Jul 2021)

Martin Conway: They are free to contribute.

Joint Committee On Health: Impacts of Covid-19 on Youth Mental Health and Psychological Services: Discussion (6 Jul 2021)

Martin Conway: Does Mr. Chambers wish to speak?

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