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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Jun 2019)

Eamon Ryan: The amount of aerial had to be increased. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Jun 2019)

Eamon Ryan: The intervention areas did not have as much ducting as expected. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Jun 2019)

Eamon Ryan: Is ducting more expensive?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Jun 2019)

Eamon Ryan: Dr. Yardley said that the third reason for the increase in the subsidy was not related to the physical construction costs of the network. What was it related to? He said there were three reasons. One was having to build through the 300,000 area and the second was the mix-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Jun 2019)

Eamon Ryan: I have talked to industry people with similar experience in other jurisdictions. They have told me that this situation is unusual in that we are subsidising the construction costs. In fact, we are paying for the construction. We are also subsidising the revenue risk. We are covering both in our subsidy. What I hear from others is that it would be standard or normal enough for the State...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Jun 2019)

Eamon Ryan: Why is the construction risk residing with the Government? Why are the costs being borne by the State? It would be more typical with a project of this type for the State to cover the revenue risk and let the developer cover the cost of construction and take some of the risk. The developer is taking no risk here. The developer is covered on the construction side and on the revenue side.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Jun 2019)

Eamon Ryan: The witnesses have just said that the subsidy went up because the revenue fell.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Jun 2019)

Eamon Ryan: This is complex and we have to dig to get to the bottom of it, as best we can, with blacked out documents. The witnesses said that the cost increases were material to the subsidy increase but that they were only a small factor or part-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Jun 2019)

Eamon Ryan: The other issue was not just the loss of the 300,000. There were other subsidy factors on the revenue side, as well as the loss of the 300,000. We need to find out what those factors are.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Jun 2019)

Eamon Ryan: This is difficult and we are only learning about it. There are 88 metropolitan area networks and a MAN is equivalent to an exchange. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Jun 2019)

Eamon Ryan: How many other exchanges will we be using as POPs in the national broadband scheme?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Jun 2019)

Eamon Ryan: What is it roughly?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Jun 2019)

Eamon Ryan: MANs would account for about one third of those.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Jun 2019)

Eamon Ryan: Are all the other exchanges Eir exchanges?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Jun 2019)

Eamon Ryan: The ESB has a ring of eight in terms of fibre optic cable backhaul. I do not know if BT still has ducting along the rail lines. There is other State ducting with respect to Bord Gáis.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Jun 2019)

Eamon Ryan: Typically, the Eir exchanges would exclusively use the Eir backhaul network. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Jun 2019)

Eamon Ryan: I presume they would.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Jun 2019)

Eamon Ryan: Mr. Kidney said that it was decided that the bidder would provide its own network in the area of the 300,000 homes. To where exactly does that network go? Where is the point of presence for those additional fibres being put in?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Jun 2019)

Eamon Ryan: Where are they trying to get to?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Jun 2019)

Eamon Ryan: As they are jumping over the area with the 300,000 homes, where are they jumping from or what is the other side of that?

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