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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Environment, Community and Local Government
(2 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: Does the committee agree to dispose of Vote 34, Chapters 4 and 5 of the Comptroller and Auditor General's report? Agreed. On behalf of the Committee of Public Accounts, I thank all our witnesses from the Department of Housing, Planning, Community and Local Government and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform. I also thank the Comptroller and Auditor General and his staff for...

Written Answers — Department of Education and Skills: Special Educational Needs Service Provision (1 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: 168. To ask the Minister for Education and Skills the procedures for an appeal system in respect of the new model for access and support scheme, which is to replace the learning support and resource hours schemes, to take into consideration complex needs cases that require immediate early intervention that have come to light and been verified recently but may not have been taken into...

Written Answers — Department of Education and Skills: Special Educational Needs Service Provision (28 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: 285. To ask the Minister for Education and Skills if the two new reports issued on 24 January 2017 and 10 February 2017 to a school in respect of two students with complex needs that both require immediate early intervention will be taken into consideration before his Department issues its new model for access and support in replacement of the learning support and resource hours scheme...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: The committee is now in public session. We are joined by the Comptroller and Auditor General, Mr. Seamus McCarthy, who is a permanent witness to this committee. He is accompanied by Mr. Mark Brady, deputy director of audit. Apologies have been received from Deputies Shane Cassells and Marc MacSharry. The minutes of the meetings of 15 and 16 February 2017 have been circulated. Are the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: I will put in one more item on this. While I stress I had no role in or knowledge of the invitation before it arrived, if the committee agrees to visit Mountmellick I would put in a proviso that we visit the Abbeyleix community nursing unit on the same day, though not to add any extra time. The reason for this is a decision by the HSE to close that unit. In all published documentation, it...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will do both on the one day. If we set aside-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will try to set a date for the visit to Mountmellick. Perhaps we might arrange with some of the nursing home associations to have a visit to a private nursing home that can be reached on the same day, rather than heading to somewhere 150 miles away or something like that. Or do we want to go there?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will agree that we will not travel unless there is a reasonable quorum. There is no point in two people travelling. Unless four, five or six are travelling, and if more all the better, we will not go. It would not inform the full committee if only two or three people were to go. Will we ask the secretariat to contact members to try to determine a suitable day? Perhaps Tuesday morning...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: The Deputy might take it in on her way. We have an outstanding train service.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes. She could take it into Portlaoise from Galway and Portarlington. We will work out the transport arrangements. We agree that it is a good idea. Maybe we will drop the Abbeyleix visit but should we visit a private nursing home at the same time? I am very conscious of a group of us walking into a nursing home. I am sensitive about that. I would not like to intrude on any patient or...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: Okay. We will thank them for the invitation and we will hold over the issue for now. We will just hold on.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: Perhaps then we will pick a private nursing home more convenient to here. We will agree in principle to accept the invitation, subject to timing, but I think it will probably be after Easter in any event. We will not set a date just yet. I am not quite sure. We will ask the secretary to liaise with a view to facilitating this. We want to respect the dignity of the residents when we visit...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: Wednesday and Thursday are not going to be good days and people will not want to take a Monday. Perhaps a Tuesday morning. We will ask the secretariat to liaise. If we get it far enough in advance it should be possible. Again I stress that a minimum number going is an important factor as well. We will move on. No. 307B is correspondence dated 15 February 2017 from NAMA regarding...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: We received this last week and it is part of our report. It is just clarifying information. We will note that. We have already examined that in our report. No. 308B 1-3 is correspondence dated 17 February 2017 from Maurice Quinn, Secretary General at the Department of Defence. This is in follow-up to the appearance of the Department before the committee on 26 January and its subsequent...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: Nua Healthcare.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: Can we note it?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will agree to note it. The Deputy is happy to note that. That is correspondence received. The next item is on reports and statements of account received since the last meeting. I will open up this particular topic by acknowledging a report by the Comptroller and Auditor General was published on this issue during the week, that is, Special Report No. 95, financial reporting in the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: As regards 2015 generally, the Comptroller and Auditor General will probably have to provide us with an update on how many of them met their three-month deadline that year.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: Okay. We will return to that topic because there is a special report. The item before us today is to note the financial statements and accounts received since our meeting of Thursday, 16 February 2017. The first item is 4.1 - the Health and Safety Authority, which has a clean audit report. The next item, 4.2, is the Housing and Sustainable Communities Agency's €16.9 million...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Feb 2017)

Seán Fleming: Does that agency have its 2014 accounts?

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