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Seanad: Mother and Baby Institutions Payment Scheme Bill 2022: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: We will come to that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: The purpose of the meeting is for the joint committee to discuss toll increases and ongoing projects with representatives of Transport Infrastructure Ireland, TII. On behalf of the committee, I am very pleased to welcome from TII Mr. Peter Walsh, chief executive officer; Mr. Pat Maher, director of network management; Mr. Robert Desmond, head of PPE procurement and finance; and Mr. Nigel...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I thank Mr. Walsh not just for his opening statement but for the 113-page briefing document. I am not sure everybody got a chance to read all of it but it is certainly there for us to refer to in the future and during the meeting. I call Deputy Lowry.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Is it somewhere in the 113 pages?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: It is in the briefing material document. The witnesses will be able to find it and revert to the Deputy.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Hold on a second. One voice only, please.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Does that answer suit the Deputy?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: The TII does not make policy. It implements policy made in the Houses.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: We will have the Minister of State, Deputy Chambers, in before the committee in two weeks so we can feed the same questions to him.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: The Government picked up the tab.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Thankfully, it is not the committee's work.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I agree. I thank Mr. Walsh.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Can I ask one question? In my understanding, the only part of the M50 that was ever the subject of a public private partnership was the West-Link toll bridge. Is that right?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Yes, but the only part that was ever the subject of a public private partnership on the M50 was that one stretch. Apologies, I know the Dublin Port tunnel is kind of called the M50.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: However, there is no revenue from that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: The only revenue was the West-Link bridge. That was bought out by the State approximately ten years ago at a cost of €400 million.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I will extend the Senator's time. This is just part of the same problem.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: The State bought it out and now collects the revenue.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Toll Increases and Ongoing Projects: Discussion with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (28 Jun 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Mr. O'Neill is painting it that there is no private operator involvement at all at this stage in that scheme.

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