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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Office of the Revenue Commissioners: Engagement (14 Dec 2022)

John McGuinness: Deputy Doherty is next.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Office of the Revenue Commissioners: Engagement (14 Dec 2022)

John McGuinness: The Revenue Commissioners are responsible for customs as well. Recently a number of Deputies were approached by fuel distributors who deal with coal, gas, briquettes and so on. With the changes coming in with regard to how much of those reserves can be used in Ireland, how are the Revenue Commissioners capturing the cross-Border activity that is going on? It seems to be a growth area....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Office of the Revenue Commissioners: Engagement (14 Dec 2022)

John McGuinness: I suggest that this is going on.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Office of the Revenue Commissioners: Engagement (14 Dec 2022)

John McGuinness: You can buy online now from a company that will deliver pallets of coal to your house.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Office of the Revenue Commissioners: Engagement (14 Dec 2022)

John McGuinness: This is a timing issue as well. The busiest time of the year is now and into the first quarter of next year. That is their busy time when they make their money for the rest of the year. I have received a number of calls from retailers selling coal about wholesalers in the North coming down, door to door, in some cases with a link online to contact and order coal. On one hand, we cannot...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Office of the Revenue Commissioners: Engagement (14 Dec 2022)

John McGuinness: The knock on from that is “And by the way, can you get me X in the North?”, and then other products are coming in. I understand the issue with the Border. However, I am concerned about the small businesses that are affected by bigger wholesalers coming in and giving prices that cannot be matched.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Office of the Revenue Commissioners: Engagement (14 Dec 2022)

John McGuinness: Revenue will trigger the engagement with the local authority on this matter. Certain actions will then be taken, presumably from there.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Office of the Revenue Commissioners: Engagement (14 Dec 2022)

John McGuinness: It is double the money.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Office of the Revenue Commissioners: Engagement (14 Dec 2022)

John McGuinness: I know that this kind of action will also impact on the families that are less well off and feeling poor at this time of the year with the number of obligations, necessities or the family life that they have.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Office of the Revenue Commissioners: Engagement (14 Dec 2022)

John McGuinness: Yes. They are running a book.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Office of the Revenue Commissioners: Engagement (14 Dec 2022)

John McGuinness: There is a network or retailer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Office of the Revenue Commissioners: Engagement (14 Dec 2022)

John McGuinness: They are at that tipping point now. They are open to giving information because it is having such a negative impact on their business.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Office of the Revenue Commissioners: Engagement (14 Dec 2022)

John McGuinness: That seems to be the end of our deliberations. I thank Mr. Cody and his officials for coming in. I wish them a happy Christmas and thank them for the work that they are doing.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Office of the Revenue Commissioners: Engagement (14 Dec 2022)

John McGuinness: The meeting is now adjourned until next year. It is great to say "next year".

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Report 42 of the Review Body on Higher Remuneration in the Public Service: Discussion (14 Dec 2022)

John McGuinness: How does Mr. O'Brien know it was not issued?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Report 42 of the Review Body on Higher Remuneration in the Public Service: Discussion (14 Dec 2022)

John McGuinness: What has happened since then?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Report 42 of the Review Body on Higher Remuneration in the Public Service: Discussion (14 Dec 2022)

John McGuinness: So the Minister for Finance was not informed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Report 42 of the Review Body on Higher Remuneration in the Public Service: Discussion (14 Dec 2022)

John McGuinness: It is mainly senior civil servants who are holding up the payment to their colleagues.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Report 42 of the Review Body on Higher Remuneration in the Public Service: Discussion (14 Dec 2022)

John McGuinness: It only affects the witnesses' group. Every effort made so far has been met with zilch.

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