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Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Steven Matthews: On the wording I used in amendment No. 661, by "the most recent approved climate action plan" I mean the national climate action plan, and the national climate action strategy.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Steven Matthews: It is.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Steven Matthews: The intent behind it is that a material contravention of a development plan that is in furtherance of climate objectives is something that should be considered. I do not see it stated there. It is something that needs to be considered.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Steven Matthews: Say that again. I did not quite catch that.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Steven Matthews: Yes. It is a planning issue, but we have had considerable discussion on the role planning plays in climate action.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Steven Matthews: If an application contravenes a plan and that application is in the furtherance of national climate objectives, it should be a matter that can be considered to materially contravene a plan. It would obviously have to be agreed. There is a process for contravening a development plan.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Steven Matthews: Amendment No. 681 relates to page 225 of the Bill and refers to a development "causing or likely to cause significant negative impact on the local environment". That would actually be quite difficult to apply because I have not given a level of it. While I favour the spirit of amendment No. 681, I just do not think it is possible. Amendment No. 707 relates to page 250 of the Bill. If a...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Steven Matthews: I know there are two separate processes. You apply for a licence and you apply for planning development for the structure and for the building. A local authority-----

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Steven Matthews: They are, but if issues of concern to the local authority are not included in the conditions attached to the licences, can the local authority apply its own conditions with regard to, not the same matters, but some other matters such as discharge, emissions, odours or noises?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Steven Matthews: Yes, I know that there are two separate application processes-----

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Steven Matthews: -----and you apply to the EPA for that. Would planning permission have to be got before getting the licence? I do not believe so.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Steven Matthews: Essentially, you could have a licence that covers all of these emissions-----

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Steven Matthews: The structure may be in place and then you apply for a licence-----

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Steven Matthews: -----and then you apply for a change of use. It may be like that, but-----

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Steven Matthews: So it is possible that the planning authority would have eyes on the licence and know what is contained in it before issuing a planning consent.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Steven Matthews: I will tell the Minister of State what I am trying to get at.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Steven Matthews: If it occurs to the planning authority that something has not been included in a licence issued by another authority, can it apply a condition to it such that it does not fall through the gaps just because another licensing authority has covered it?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Steven Matthews: If the planning authority is aware of an additional possible environmental impact on its local area that is not referred to in a waste licence, integrated pollution control licence or other licence issued by the licensing authority, can it apply a planning condition to that licence to cover this?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Steven Matthews: I referred to the planning authority, so it could be the commission.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (29 Feb 2024)

Steven Matthews: I know that, but if a licence is issued that covers emissions to air, noise or something like that-----

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