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Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: RTÉ (Resumed) (13 Sep 2023)

Niamh Smyth: I encourage you to say what you want to say. This is your opportunity.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: RTÉ (Resumed) (13 Sep 2023)

Niamh Smyth: I ask Ms Howard the same question. When she joined the board, what did she feel at that time? Did she feel Ms Doherty accurately reflected how the whole board was feeling and this thing of working in isolation almost? Has Ms Howard seen change?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: RTÉ (Resumed) (13 Sep 2023)

Niamh Smyth: I wish you the best of luck with your term on the RTÉ board. Ms O'Leary, can I ask you the same question? You have been there quite some time, I assume.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: RTÉ (Resumed) (13 Sep 2023)

Niamh Smyth: And he was there for five years. Is that what you said, Ms O'Leary?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: RTÉ (Resumed) (13 Sep 2023)

Niamh Smyth: So you have only been two years without him.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: RTÉ (Resumed) (13 Sep 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Four. I beg your pardon.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: RTÉ (Resumed) (13 Sep 2023)

Niamh Smyth: In terms of the audit and risk committee which you sit on, there are a number of subcommittees within RTÉ: the remuneration committee, there is audit and risk, there is strategy, there is audience, and there is digital and technology. Has there been any change in terms of the subcommittees and that lack of opportunity to meet? Has that changed?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: RTÉ (Resumed) (13 Sep 2023)

Niamh Smyth: We will come to Mr. Ruane next. How long has he been on the board? Will he describe to us the then and the now?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: RTÉ (Resumed) (13 Sep 2023)

Niamh Smyth: The comments of board members, whom I was really anxious to hear from today, so far suggest that there has been a cultural shift. I thank Mr. Ruane. I will come to Mr. Kehoe. How long has he been a member of the board?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: RTÉ (Resumed) (13 Sep 2023)

Niamh Smyth: How long has he been deputy chair of the board?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: RTÉ (Resumed) (13 Sep 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Due to ill health and that kind of thing, Ms Doherty was absent from meetings and so on for some time. Did Mr. Kehoe take the chair at that point?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: RTÉ (Resumed) (13 Sep 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Did Mr. Kehoe raise any concerns about remuneration or the lack of meetings of the remuneration committee?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: RTÉ (Resumed) (13 Sep 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Would he do things differently now?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: RTÉ (Resumed) (13 Sep 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Did Mr. Kehoe express that view?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: RTÉ (Resumed) (13 Sep 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Briefly.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: RTÉ (Resumed) (13 Sep 2023)

Niamh Smyth: I will pause Mr. Kehoe there. I have one final question. Mr. Kehoe is a central piece to the board, as deputy chair. It would be my understanding that the executive would have found it difficult in the past in terms of giving information to the board because of leaks. I am sure all of you, as we did, even got to read about the appointment of the DG. Leaks were coming from the board and,...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: RTÉ (Resumed) (13 Sep 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Does Mr. Kehoe think that would have affected how the executive could work in a meaningful way with the board?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: RTÉ (Resumed) (13 Sep 2023)

Niamh Smyth: And perhaps further back.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: RTÉ (Resumed) (13 Sep 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Leaks are a different thing that compromise how the executive can fully operate. Would Mr. Kehoe agree? It would make it difficult for them to come forward with information and would make them hesitant, let us say.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: RTÉ (Resumed) (13 Sep 2023)

Niamh Smyth: I have one final question for Ms Ní Raghallaigh. I want to address that question of leaks because this has obviously been deeply destructive and harmful to RTÉ as an entity. Has Ms Ní Raghallaigh been able to address that?

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