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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: Would Mr. O'Brien just answer the question as to whether every slide is looked at by two technicians.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: The witness is satisfied every single slide is?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: We will hear about it ourselves then.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: This is a really important point of order. Mr. O'Brien has said that the cervical screening is only 70% accurate, that is really serious. When I checked the website it says there is a small risk.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: Sorry it is extremely important for that to be clarified Chair because there is a 30% risk that a test does not mean anything. That is not accurate, the witness is trying to backpedal.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: The website said there is a small risk, not a 30% risk.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: Can the witness clarify what the detection rate of this screening is?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: No it has not Chair.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: It is 70%.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: That is not 30% which the witness said earlier.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: -----may not be accurate.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: It does not say 70%.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: Something important has just come up that the Chair should be concerned about in his capacity as Chair of the process.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: Can I suggest that we should get the answer on that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: Is that in America or here?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: Do the three laboratories have the same results or are they different?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: The witnesses must have the results for the three laboratories in detecting high grade-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: I am sure the witnesses are tired but the issue regarding the testing system that emerged earlier is very important. We all know the mistakes were made with disclosure. I believe a very paternalistic attitude towards women pervades the Irish health service, and it is probably reflected in what happened. However, I wish to focus on the testing because my concern is that once one turns the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: Yes, but I cannot judge and this is the only chance I have to ask questions. To be honest, that information should be at the top as the witnesses knew this issue had emerged in the press. The witness made some disparaging remarks about tests being done on the kitchen table. That is at odds with what Dr. Sam Coulter-Smith said. He is not an insignificant person as a former master of the...

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