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Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government (Mayor of Limerick) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (16 Nov 2023)

Kieran O'Donnell: The mayor is accountable to the council, has executive powers and, basically, responds to the chamber in the same way as the CEO would. The mayor is also a member of the chamber. The recommendation of the implementation advisory group, IAG - and I went back and read the report last night-----

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government (Mayor of Limerick) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (16 Nov 2023)

Kieran O'Donnell: I will put it this way. I could see Deputy McNamara's abiding interest in the matter so I felt it was only appropriate that I give it the importance it deserved. I went back and read the IAG report. The IAG recommendation was - I am paraphrasing here - that, having considered the matter in depth, it believed there was a need for a separation of the roles at the plenary session of the...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government (Mayor of Limerick) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (16 Nov 2023)

Kieran O'Donnell: Yes, but may I humbly say-----

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government (Mayor of Limerick) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (16 Nov 2023)

Kieran O'Donnell: Effectively, this is a directly elected mayor with executive powers. The cathaoirleach does not have executive powers at the moment. The príomh chomhairleoir will not have executive powers. The directly elected mayor will come into the chamber and report to the chamber on all the areas under his or her executive powers. The meeting will continue to be chaired by the príomh...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government (Mayor of Limerick) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (16 Nov 2023)

Kieran O'Donnell: I would put the counterargument to the Deputy. Does he believe that the current CEO should chair the council chamber?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government (Mayor of Limerick) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (16 Nov 2023)

Kieran O'Donnell: Ergo, then why would the directly elected mayor, who has executive powers, chair the chamber? There is a need for efficient operation. The mayor is to bring added value, not to replace the cathaoirleach. The mayor is to take on some of the measures but ultimately, we want someone to bring enormous added value in policy areas, be accountable to the chamber in the same way as the CEO and...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government (Mayor of Limerick) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (16 Nov 2023)

Kieran O'Donnell: This only applies to meetings. The cathaoirleach will chair the meeting. It is as basic as that.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government (Mayor of Limerick) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (16 Nov 2023)

Kieran O'Donnell: In essence, the cathaoirleach chairs the session.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government (Mayor of Limerick) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (16 Nov 2023)

Kieran O'Donnell: I look forward to debating it with the Deputy on Report Stage.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government (Mayor of Limerick) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (16 Nov 2023)

Kieran O'Donnell: Which part is that?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government (Mayor of Limerick) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (16 Nov 2023)

Kieran O'Donnell: Where the chief executive incurs additional expenditure, under certain circumstances, the cathaoirleach must be informed immediately.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government (Mayor of Limerick) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (16 Nov 2023)

Kieran O'Donnell: The príomh comhairleoir

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government (Mayor of Limerick) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (16 Nov 2023)

Kieran O'Donnell: Correct.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government (Mayor of Limerick) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (16 Nov 2023)

Kieran O'Donnell: Yes.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government (Mayor of Limerick) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (16 Nov 2023)

Kieran O'Donnell: Will the Deputy please repeat that point? I did not quite catch it.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government (Mayor of Limerick) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (16 Nov 2023)

Kieran O'Donnell: It will now provide that where the mayor incurs additional expenditure under certain circumstances, the príomh comhairleoir must be informed.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government (Mayor of Limerick) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (16 Nov 2023)

Kieran O'Donnell: It says that where the chief executive incurs additional expenditure under certain circumstances, the cathaoirleach must be informed immediately. The Deputy will appreciate that I am not a lawyer.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government (Mayor of Limerick) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (16 Nov 2023)

Kieran O'Donnell: There are two reasons for this. If Deputy McNamara tables amendments in the normal way, we will look at them in great depth.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government (Mayor of Limerick) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (16 Nov 2023)

Kieran O'Donnell: I am not a lawyer. I am not a barrister and at the end of the day, we are not in court of law. The Deputy is probably putting questions to us on which we cannot give finer detail at the moment, but we will.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government (Mayor of Limerick) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (16 Nov 2023)

Kieran O'Donnell: Yes.

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