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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: Fine. The witness can see where I am heading. Can he give us a figure for gender balance in third level teaching staff and board membership? I am sure that figure is in the Department's system. I suspect the balance is different at board level than in teaching staff or the student population.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: I know that. Can the witness give us the figures as they are? In regard to the public private partnership, PPP, programme which is covered on page 20 of the Department's accounts, there is approximately €500 million of commitments to the seven projects listed. The note on page 21 indicates that they all include design, build and financing. Is the witness able to give us the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: I understand they do the borrowing but I just want to know-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: No. Their rate is their rate. When the Department signed the contract, the cost structure of the contract was built up based on the design, the build, the maintenance, plus a financing percentage rate. Is the State irrevocably locked into a 25 year contract?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: Some of these contracts are 10 or 11 or 12 years-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: I ask the witness to send in the report on those issues. While it may not be possible to send the most recent, it needs to be looked at. I call Deputy Cullinane.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: The Companies Registration Office might tell us. I wish to make the point that I do not know whether it is a function of an employer to go into the private financial details of their employees.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: I do not disagree with the Deputy or anything but employers are probably limited.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: We can write to the Department for the full details.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: We have asked for the information on the earlier projects and it will be sent into us.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: The Deputy might have missed that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: Okay. I think we have completed our work at this stage. Can we agree to dispose of Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills? That is agreed. On behalf of the Committee of Public Accounts, I thank our witnesses from the Departments of Education and Skills and Public Expenditure and Reform. I also thank the Comptroller and Auditor General and the staff of his office for being with us...

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: Before beginning, I ask everybody in the room to turn off their mobile phones or switch them to aeroplane mode, as putting them in silent mode only does not work. Messages or e-mails may be received and this disrupts the recording procedures. There may not be an accurate record if there are interruptions from mobile phones.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: It will not work. When I put my phone in aeroplane mode, the Wi-Fi shuts down.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: The Deputy should switch it to aeroplane mode in any event. That is as much as I know. This afternoon we are dealing with matters relating to the appearance of witnesses from the Health Service Executive, HSE, before the Committee of Public Accounts on 2 February 2016. At our meeting two weeks ago, certain matters were raised relating to Grace, the case of abuse that was the focus of RTE's...

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: I take it AGS is An Garda Síochána. People are not used to the AGS term. So that everybody understands, AGS is An Garda Síochána.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: I thank Mr. O'Brien. Speakers have indicated in the following sequence: Deputies Cullinane, Catherine Murphy, Madigan, Connolly, Kelly and Burke. We are doing ten-minute slots each to give everybody an early slot and if somebody wants to come in a second time, there will be an opportunity because I do not want people going on for 20 or 25 minutes. I remind members that we are not...

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: I have to come in here. An issue of a cover-up will be investigated by the commission of investigation. Mr. O'Brien is here to correct the record of the previous committee meeting. If the Deputy can show me in the transcript where he believes-----

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