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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: Will Deputy Murphy pursue it with the clerk?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: We will converse on that point with the clerk to the committee. Item 3C.3 is correspondence dated 5 February 2014, from Eileen Quinlivan of the DDDA. It is her opening statement and is to be noted and published. Item 4 is the reports, statements and accounts received since the meeting of 30 January. The accounts are to be noted. Item 5 is the work programme and it is now on the screen....

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: Are members minded to invite Ms Mellissa English to attend before us next week to discuss the general issue of whistleblowers? That is a decision for the committee. Perhaps Deputy Ross's objections to the matter could be noted in the minutes of the committee, on this particular issue.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: Deputy Ross is aware that the legal advice we got is that, in terms of any transcript, one would expect that there would probably be redactions needed, and we are being told by the Editor of Debates of the Houses of the Oireachtas that no transcript can be redacted in any way. If the Deputy is taking into account the best interests of all concerned - and I want to move onto the main body of...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: I thought that the workings of this committee, Deputy Ross-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: -----were about dealing with the public interest.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: Can I take it, Deputy Ross,-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: -----that the issue here is as follows. The Committee of Public Accounts, as a committee, has always operated on a consensus. I believe members are making this point in the best interests of all concerned, and there are issues of concern. Anything that is referred to the CPP will involve a transcript that is unredacted. It was a private meeting. Can we take it, at this moment in time,...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: We can note it in the minutes that the Deputy opposes it and then we can move on from this point.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: I believe, in the interests of the committee-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: The decision of the committee at this time from the deliberations of the members here today is that, taking all factors into account - the fact that it was a private a meeting, the fact that it would involve an unredacted transcript being provided - the view of the committee is that it would not, at this time, be referred to the CPP for decision.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: We note the Deputy's dissension.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: We note the Deputy's dissension.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: Item 3B.1 is correspondence dated 4 January received from an anonymous source re mismanagement at St. Vincent's Healthcare Group. It is to be noted and a copy forwarded to St. Vincent's Healthcare Group for a note on the issues raised.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: I want a question, Deputy.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: I suggest that the clerk to the committee writes to the HSE requesting the information to be provided before next Thursday's meeting. Is that acceptable to the Deputy?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: I agree with the Deputy. That is why it is imperative that the issue is dealt with as quickly as possible and also that the message goes out that the great majority of organisations in the area do outstanding work. The Deputy's points have been duly noted, well made and stated at the appropriate time. Item 3B.2 is correspondence dated 24 January 2014, from Mr. Michael Wall, sector...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: As of now, the committee will not produce a transcript because we cannot do so under the rules of the House.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: Is it the general view of members that we should make a decision today?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Feb 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: One of the rules of the House is that if the committee is minded to publish the transcript, the matter must be referred to the Committee on Procedure and Privileges. Those are the Standing Orders.

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