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Public Accounts Committee: HEA - Financial Statement 2015 (29 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: The next sequence of speakers is Deputies Cullinane, Connolly, Madigan, Cassells and Aylward. I call Deputy Cullinane and he has 15 minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: HEA - Financial Statement 2015 (29 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: Will the HEA supply a representative to attend the meetings tomorrow and next week?

Public Accounts Committee: HEA - Financial Statement 2015 (29 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: That is agreed.

Public Accounts Committee: HEA - Financial Statement 2015 (29 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: If the HEA can get those which have not consolidated yet, and there are quite a few, to consolidate in 2017-2018 because due to governance issues they cannot do it retrospectively, it will be 2020 before we see those accounts that are ultimately consolidated for the 2018 audit and brought before us.

Public Accounts Committee: HEA - Financial Statement 2015 (29 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: I understand that.

Public Accounts Committee: HEA - Financial Statement 2015 (29 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: Where they are not consolidated, and Mr. McCarthy says they are different structures, can the audited accounts for those non-consolidated foundations be included by way of an appendix in the annual report notwithstanding that they may not be consolidated? They will be in there. When the Comptroller and Auditor General sees the annual report, there might be an appendix dealing with the...

Public Accounts Committee: HEA - Financial Statement 2015 (29 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: They do not appear in the annual report.

Public Accounts Committee: HEA - Financial Statement 2015 (29 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: That is something we might consider making a recommendation on. If they are out there, it would make understanding of the annual report of a third level institution more complete to have an appendix referring to that issue. If any business went to its bank seeking funding for next year, by way of an overdraft facility, and told the bank that its last audited accounts were three years old...

Public Accounts Committee: HEA - Financial Statement 2015 (29 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: When is the end of their financial year typically? I know it covers the academic year.

Public Accounts Committee: HEA - Financial Statement 2015 (29 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: Will the HEA give us an update by the end of this calendar year? Will it make a note of it now? We might ask for it in the meantime but in case we do not and we move on, will the HEA put in its diary that it will give us an update on the position when we head into the new year?

Public Accounts Committee: HEA - Financial Statement 2015 (29 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: Since when?

Public Accounts Committee: HEA - Financial Statement 2015 (29 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: They were suspended before the Mazars report and the mediation.

Public Accounts Committee: HEA - Financial Statement 2015 (29 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: Was the protected disclosure made before or after their suspensions?

Public Accounts Committee: HEA - Financial Statement 2015 (29 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: I do not know anything about this. I am just asking that question.

Public Accounts Committee: HEA - Financial Statement 2015 (29 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: DCS is being referred to. Who is being talked about?

Public Accounts Committee: HEA - Financial Statement 2015 (29 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: What is "DCS"?

Public Accounts Committee: HEA - Financial Statement 2015 (29 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: Was that the name of the company?

Public Accounts Committee: HEA - Financial Statement 2015 (29 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: Who had the shareholding in the companies?

Public Accounts Committee: HEA - Financial Statement 2015 (29 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: Who had the shareholdings in DCS?

Public Accounts Committee: HEA - Financial Statement 2015 (29 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: What about before consolidation?

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