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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I welcome the Minister of State and all the witnesses. It is good to see Dr. Niazi again. In fairness, Deputy Tully has dealt with much of it. We have all had the conversations about silo operations. I think we would all agree that if people got the service they wanted for their autistic kid, whether in primary care or disability services, nobody would be looking to be in CAMHS. The...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: There are spectacular gaping holes. Regarding that, we had the Irish Association of Speech and Language Therapists, IASLT, the Association of Occupational Therapists of Ireland, AOTI, the Psychological Society of Ireland, PSI, and others in here. We have been told for ages that workforce planning has been sorted. When I listen to Mr. Higgins and others, I am not quite sure we are there....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I accept that. Can we accept that we are in a bad situation regarding how many have come to us in the past while looking for service?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Can we accept we have a bad situation, in that we do not have the people in play? We have what we have. We need a plan to sort out the workforce planning in order that we will have enough in the future. What can we offer at this point in time? The silo system does not work. People just want an answer to the problem.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: A huge number of people do that. An awful lot of these jobs are a hard station and the Minister of State is also dealing with people's frustration, which is not necessarily right but that is what happens.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Yes. What about the silo issue and game of ping-pong that happens?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: But no wrong door.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Once the person is dealt with, yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I thank the Minister and her officials. I welcome an awful lot of what has been said, particularly when the Minister spoke about flexibility. Am I right with regard to summer provision that the Department is engaging across the board and has opened it up to any group that may want to operate within reason, obviously, and even if they do not have a premises, there is the possibility of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I am just making sure.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I accept that and I know there can be particular issues in that regard.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: That is all vital. In fairness, I welcome the fact that the Minister spoke about learnings. We all talk about learnings being made, which they have been and will continue to be. We will not get this perfectly in one go. It is about delivering this to as many children and families as possible who require it. When we talk about provision of autistic spectrum disorder, ASD, units, I have...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Built-in universal design.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Also, the notion of a two-year run-in for parents of those with disabilities to apply.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: In fairness, it is an issue on which I have engaged with the Minister before. It is just that we sometimes hear of a fear in schools around provision. For example, if things break well for a school in relation to the SNA allocation and it gets double, it will be only too delighted like anybody else, but sometimes schools are afraid to make an appeal in case there is row-back and they might...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: No.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (23 May 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: That is what I was hoping the answer would be. I hope that can allay some of the fears.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Engagement with the National Cyber Security Centre (23 May 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Obviously, I missed a considerable amount of the discussion as I attending other meetings. In fairness, AI has been dealt with. We all accept that AI is not necessarily what is discussed in the public domain. There are dangers but we have also seen where AI can aid and abet everything from medicine right through. When people look at the fake video and the possibilities there, no more than...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Engagement with the National Cyber Security Centre (23 May 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Exactly.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Engagement with the National Cyber Security Centre (23 May 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I am throwing this out there because Predator is connected to a company that is based here and has connections with the Israeli security sphere, for want of a better term. This State has to get a proper handle on it. The NCSC is engaging constantly with companies that have importance in critical infrastructure and all the rest of it. In this State, we have a huge number of educational...

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