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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Is there a follow-on in terms of how it is accounted for?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Murphy: I am sure the Chairman will give me back a big chunk of my time.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Murphy: That is fine. I come to something different entirely, home tutors. I heard what Mr. Ó Foghlú said earlier about how that occurred. I have some further questions on that process. Different categories of people will seek home tuition. There are people who actually opt for home-schooling. There is another category of people who find themselves in a situation where their...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Murphy: All right.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Murphy: I come to an issue which may be driven by schools funding themselves. I refer to the commercialisation of some of the school buildings, for example, in the context of after-school activities. I have no problem with after-school activities. Some of them, such as dyslexia classes, are educational. Sometimes those involved are charged commercial rates for the use of classrooms in...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Murphy: There is an educational advantage for the child and the education system through these types of initiatives. This is not particularly prevalent, in terms of after-school use, but it strikes me that there is something perverse about a school charging commercial rates for educational initiatives that actually benefit the school and I think the Department should caution against that. Such...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Going back to the issue of capital investment of €621 million, obviously demographic pressures will drive some new needs, as well as the process of eliminating prefabs and upgrading schools. Where does choice come into play in terms of patronage, the Irish language and so forth? In north Kildare, for example, there is demand for a gaelcholáiste but the Department keeps insisting...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Murphy: On divestment, there is a programme under way to change patronage and reduce the level of religious patronage of schools. In terms of school assets, would some of the schools that would be subject to divestment be owned by the religious institutions? If so, has the purchase of those assets been factored in? What way does that work?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Is that one of the impediments? The process has been very slow-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Lastly, on the legal awards, there are particular issues relating to the awards themselves as well as the legal costs. I presume that over the years there has been a reduction in legal challenges against the Department. There was a plethora of such challenges in the late 1990s and early 2000s from parents seeking appropriate education for their children. Is it safe to assume that has...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Murphy: What kinds of actions would they be?

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Murphy: One can have Wi-Fi on with aeroplane mode and it would not interfere with the process.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Murphy: The Wi-Fi can be put back on and messages can be received without interference.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Murphy: The reports were initiated and concluded. The Garda investigation commenced after the completion of the reports. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Murphy: At what point did the HSE formally engage with the Garda about publication of the reports?

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Murphy: And the reports were at what stage at that point?

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Why was the Devine report not published before the Garda investigation was initiated?

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Was there formal engagement and correspondence with the Garda? Is that available?

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Between the HSE and the Garda. What is the first point at which there is formal engagement?

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Murphy: I find it quite difficult to figure out the different individuals, H7, H6 and H4. Who was actually on this panel; was it H7, H3 and H12? It does matter because it is about who actually made the decision or was on the panel that made the decision. Originally it was said that there was a three-person panel, none of whom remained in the public service. Obviously we know different now. This...

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