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Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (19 Jun 2003)

David Norris: Of course it is, if these people are creating a nuisance or intimidating people. The Senator said their behaviour was intimidatory and was causing a nuisance to neighbours. It is covered by other aspects of the law. The Minister is saying what I was trying to say on Second Stage, which was that the vast majority do not object to people drinking. On the Continent young people are encouraged...

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (19 Jun 2003)

David Norris: If a crime was committed, it is a different matter.

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (19 Jun 2003)

David Norris: I wish to move amendment No. 21.

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (19 Jun 2003)

David Norris: In that case, I will rely on what I said on Second Stage. It seems silly and unfair to send young people between the ages of 15 and 18 years off to bed at 8 p.m. They should be allowed to stay until 9 p.m. With regard to the earlier amendment, however, I have no difficulty with providing that children should be out of a premises by 8 p.m. I will not call a vote on it but a public house is not...

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (19 Jun 2003)

David Norris: The Senator was drunk.

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (19 Jun 2003)

David Norris: The Senator has made up for it since.

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (19 Jun 2003)

David Norris: We can go on until 10 p.m.

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (19 Jun 2003)

David Norris: I wonder if we could arrange for the publication of these fascinating reminiscences from all around the House about the drinking habits of Ireland. They would form a wonderful little booklet.

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (19 Jun 2003)

David Norris: Hear, hear.

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (19 Jun 2003)

David Norris: The Minister has been eminently reasonable. He has given us a clear, cogent, well argued version of his case which has persuaded me. The accusations of being anti-family are a form of cheap sloganeering which do not match reality. If a reasonable person went into a hotel and saw a notice saying, "Children are not allowed in the bar of this hotel after 9 p.m.", he or she would register that...

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (19 Jun 2003)

David Norris: I move amendment No. 21: In page 15, line 5, to delete "8.00 p.m." and substitute "9.00 p.m.". Amendment agreed to.

Seanad: Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (19 Jun 2003)

David Norris: Uno trionfo for the Independents. Amendment No. 22 not moved. Section 14, as amended, agreed to. SECTION 15. Government amendment No. 23: In page 16, to delete lines 3 to 9 and substitute the following: 34A.–(1) The holder of a licence of any licensed premises shall not allow a person who is aged at least 18 years but under the age of 21 years to be in the bar of those premises between 9.00...

Seanad: Order of Business. (18 Jun 2003)

David Norris: I support Senator Brian Hayes in his comments on the Intoxicating Liquor Bill. The Leader must agree that it is not the most helpful way to proceed, and it does not assist the efficiency of the House if we get a Bill in the morning and have to debate it in the afternoon. The timescale is unrealistically short. We have debated the level of crime in the capital city but we need a focused debate...

Seanad: Order of Business. (18 Jun 2003)

David Norris: I upheld the sovereignty of the House.

Seanad: European Convention on Human Rights Bill 2001: Second Stage. (18 Jun 2003)

David Norris: The background to the Bill is quite clear. Ireland is one of the ten founding signatories to the European Convention on Human Rights. As we had the first case, the Lawless case, to be heard in Strasbourg, we have had a long period of involvement. However, I can only give the most guarded welcome to the Bill, as it is quite clear it takes a minimalist approach. We are doing the least amount...

Seanad: European Convention on Human Rights Bill 2001: Second Stage. (18 Jun 2003)

David Norris: Not really. It is only on moral issues that we disagree.

Seanad: European Convention on Human Rights Bill 2001: Second Stage. (18 Jun 2003)

David Norris: I got nothing. Not one cent.

Seanad: European Convention on Human Rights Bill 2001: Second Stage. (18 Jun 2003)

David Norris: Can they appeal the amount?

Seanad: European Convention on Human Rights Bill 2001: Second Stage. (18 Jun 2003)

David Norris: That is the problem.

Seanad: European Convention on Human Rights Bill 2001: Second Stage. (18 Jun 2003)

David Norris: Ours is weaker in some respects.

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