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Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: It is the secretary of the Department. What is that person's name?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Is Mr. Breslin telling me that Children's Health Ireland is not on the programme board for the national children's hospital?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: So they are not members of the board. I just want to understand this. The national children's hospital, Children's Health Ireland are not on the board that is over the programme board.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: But Children's Health Ireland is ultimately going to run the hospital and Mr. Breslin is telling me it has no role, it does not have a member on the board overseeing it.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: But they will run the hospital at the end of the day. Should it not be running this project? Should it not be the key group on the board if it is going to run the children's hospital? Forgive me for asking what might seem like a strange question to Mr. Breslin.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: They go away when the building is handed over.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: They are the people-----

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: -----to oversee the children's hospital in the long term.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: When the hospital is functioning, because people want to know, will CHI report to the programme board in the long term?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: They are section 38 bodies.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Let us start again. CHI is a section-----

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Is it a HSE hospital?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Is it like Tallaght? Is Tallaght a HSE hospital?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: What HSE hospital is there in Dublin?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Children's Health Ireland will be a section 38 organisation, not run by the Department of Health. It will have its own board-----

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: -----and will get the funding from the Department of Health.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: I was merely clarifying that. I do not know whether that is good or bad. It is merely information I want to put out there for people because we get lost with these long titles.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: We just had a note from Mr. Robert Watt of the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, DPER, on the new spending code pending approval. We have to cover that on another topic. I apologise to Mr. Barry for the interruption.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: That is my habit. If there is something that I do not understand, I will try and add a bit of clarity. It is important so that we understand the structure.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: It is vehicular access.

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