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Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: We understand that and we are making the point that the university has a few months to sort out the issue for the future.

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: For the midlanders who do not understand, what údarás is Ms Dooley talking about?

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: It is not.

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: I will give the Deputy further latitude.

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: I am happy to do that. Does Deputy Cullinane have any questions?

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: If it would help the Deputy I will answer that for him. If the university has 1,493 full-time equivalents, FTEs, we multiply that by 39 hours as the normal working week, and divide it by 2,116, which is the number on the payroll, and the answer is 27.5 hours per week.

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: That is an average and it does not take account of everything.

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: It was a simple question and that is the simple answer. There is more behind it.

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: You are at the Committee of Public Accounts.

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Dr. Browne might explain precisely what he understands by casualisation when he is writing it.

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: The committee members will inform the clerk to confirm that.

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: I have two quick questions for Dr. Browne. In his opening statement, he said something that is news to me. He said that the university produces two formats of annual financial statements each year, the HEA funding statements which are audited by KPMG, and the general accepted accounting principles, GAAP, statements, which are audited by KPMG and the Comptroller and Auditor General. Why are...

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Financial statements.

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: The generally accepted accounting standards. I still do not understand, and Ms Dooley will have to explain, why KPMG is auditing the same set of accounts as the Comptroller and Auditor General. I do not get it.

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: I understand that. Why is the Comptroller and Auditor General's account not adequate for that purpose?

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: I might ask the witness to come back to us. I do not think we have encountered this before. It has not emerged before that there are two sets of audited accounts. We will move on. I see on page 20, note 7 refers to external auditors €106,000 and internal audit €104,000. Is the internal audit function provided by KPMG?

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes. Does that external audit cover both the Comptroller and Auditor General and KPMG? I am sorry I have never heard of these two sets of auditors before.

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes, the €106,000. What is the internal audit function? Is that sub-contracted?

Public Accounts Committee: National University of Ireland Galway: Financial Statement 2013-2014 (6 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Does that external audit fee cover both KPMG and the Comptroller and Auditor General?

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