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Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon: Financial Statements 2015 (4 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: I do not need the history of it. I just want to deal with the accounts. I have very little time. With regard to the board, many people who appear in front of the committee, which is certainly a challenging environment, will see year zero as the previous board. We have been told that this is a new board. How many people on the new board served on previous boards?

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon: Financial Statements 2015 (4 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon: Financial Statements 2015 (4 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Had those three people served on just one previous board or on others also?

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon: Financial Statements 2015 (4 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Is the term for three years?

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon: Financial Statements 2015 (4 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Am I right in saying that one person has been appointed for the third time?

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon: Financial Statements 2015 (4 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: That goes against the recommendation.

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon: Financial Statements 2015 (4 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: But Bord na gCon is not taking it on good faith.

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon: Financial Statements 2015 (4 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Mr. Creed made the point that if Bord na gCon did not sell the Harold's Cross stadium, which was not making a loss, then the bank was going to sell it. Did the bank pick this asset out and tell the board that it was to be sold? What are the circumstances of that decision?

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon: Financial Statements 2015 (4 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: I want to go into a few other aspects of the ongoing operation. In the witnesses' opening statements we were told that, "The IGB’s difficulties are not unique. The industry globally is facing many challenges, notably as a result of the migration of wagering from track to technology platforms which has impacted on live attendances at race meetings." This movement would have been known...

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon: Financial Statements 2015 (4 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Mr. Meaney is saying that they are all sustainable. Can I ask-----

Public Accounts Committee: Bord na gCon: Financial Statements 2015 (4 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Operating costs in 2014 show that winnings paid from the tote were around €15 million and a similar amount in 2015. The operating costs, however, went from €8.9 million to €12.3 million. How did that happen? It is a very big jump, about one third of an increase in one year.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore
(4 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Page 7 of the report describes Templemore as a modern university campus. It goes on to say the Garda Síochána College provides education and training programmes and interventions, ranging from MA, BA, BSc, police leadership, higher diploma, certificates in firearms, driver training, and public order courses. Therefore, this is an educational establishment. The Garda is acutely...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore
(4 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Are there consequences for anyone?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore
(4 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Standards in public office obligations are relevant. Those of us who are elected to the House are in fear of the standards in public office obligations and are aware of being in compliance with that office. I would have thought every public servant and garda was acutely aware of the responsibility. There are many failings. How seriously was the requirement to be in compliance with the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore
(4 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Is this part of Garda training now?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore
(4 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: I would like to return the date in July 2015 when the Commissioner became aware of all of this. I know from the Comptroller and Auditor General's statement on Vote 20 that it does not appear to have been notified to the Comptroller and Auditor General until 31 May 2016. Why is that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore
(4 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Would it not have been prudent to immediately inform the Comptroller and Auditor General?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore
(4 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: That is very unsatisfactory. When anything like that arises there should be an immediate process of notification, because that is where the oversight is. On page 11 of the report we are told that accumulated funds made by the college restaurant and shop were transferred to Sportsfield Company Limited or invested in various investment accounts. It seems to have been quite a generator of...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore
(4 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: It is an interim report and it is quite obvious that we are going to have to see a lot more than this interim report. It is prompting questions rather than answering many of the obvious questions. Are the accounts related to the boat club subjected to internal audit?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore
(4 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Some €100,000 is transferred into a company that is separate from An Garda Síochána from funds that come into the restaurant - because of surpluses made in the restaurant - from public funds. Is that right?

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